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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 54 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure he's "learned" anything. Good article otherwise!

[–] Dienervent@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Good article?

The comments that formed the basis of the complaints against Dr. Peterson included comments on a podcast in which he commented on air pollution and child deaths by saying “it’s just poor children…”

This quote is the most disgusting out of context character assassination I've seen in a long time.

I got suspicious because while Jordan does say things that women and/or trans people often find deplorable. I know that he's a strong supporter of the poor (at least in rhetoric) and as a family man I assume of children as well.

The full context can be found on Spotify. Episode #1769 of "The Joe Rogan Experience" start from about 15:30. He's the one that brings up how 7 million poor children die from indoor particulate pollution. Joe doesn't believe him and gets a fact check, which eventually leads to Jordan sarcastically saying "Well, it's just poor children, and the world has too many people on it anyway..."

It's such an insane mischaracterization of what he said, you can't take the article seriously. Probably would have to write off the entire website that article is from, honestly.

[–] Steeve@lemmy.ca 76 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think Jordon Peterson is a giant pile of shit, but you're being downvoted for calling out a shitty article for misrepresenting obvious sarcasm, and that's bullshit. Misinformation is misinformation regardless of whether or not it confirms our bias, if the Fediverse community doesn't want to learn this it has no business pointing at misinformation on other platforms like Reddit.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can we expect anyone to critically examine the media they consume if we fail to do the same when it suits us? Peterson is a flaming pile of pseudo-intellectual garbage, but there's plenty of ways to prove that without intentionally taking sound bites out of context.

That and body shaming people you don't like really aggravate me. Shit humans do shit things, attack that and leave the rest alone.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The double-standards on body shaming drive me up the wall on this website. The number of "ugly, fat, small penis" comments I see from the same people who say you can't call a medically obese person "obese" is insane to me.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

The number of “ugly, fat, small penis” comments I see from the same people who say you can’t call a medically obese person “obese” is insane to me.

Cite one of your many examples of being unable to call a medically obese person "obese" because of objections from people engaging in body shaming.

[–] gianni@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 year ago

Please read this: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

Not only does Jordan Peterson say dumb inflammatory shit, but he’s also apparently an intellectual fraud.

[–] nicktron@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He’s a horrible piece of shit regardless of what that article says.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

he's a strong supporter of the poor (at least in rhetoric)

"Well, it's just poor children, and the world has too many people on it anyway..."

Never mind how laughable that first quote is, it is inherently incompatible with the second, since the entire Malthusian myth is based in classist eugenics

https://usfblogs.usfca.edu/sustainability/2023/04/20/overconsumption-not-overpopulation-debunking-the-overpopulation-myth-and-eco-fascism/

https://www.theworldmind.org/home/2021/12/10/the-dangerous-myth-of-overpopulation

https://www.globaljustice.org.uk/blog/2019/03/how-racist-myths-built-population-growth-bogey-man/

Imagine still jumping to the defence of this bigoted useless grifter... 🤦‍♀️😂

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jordan is an asshole, but misinformation is misinformation. We aren't trying to become Fox 'News' here

[–] kazakhspy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I am sorry, but I dont understand where is the misinformation? The article doesnt state nor imply that JP has said that poor children deserve to die. It stated, that that particular comment was used in a complaint against him in court. So if you are upset at the people who formed the complaint then thats fair. But why be mad at the article? They only stated what has happened, unless I misunderstood?

[–] JTode@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

This is why I've kinda stopped consuming other people's political writing, and only shitcomment about it. People of all stripes cannot resist the urge to make the story just a liiiiiitle better.

[–] BruceDoh@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago

Would you throw out Nietzsche because he said one thing you disagree with?