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[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Stopping climate change benefits everyone, including the taxpayers.

[–] jandar_fett@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This isn't going to put a dent in climate change. It just isn't. Wake me up when we change our stance on Nuclear since that is the only thing that will bolster renewable energy, which is a stop gap.

Furthermore, if the US government actually cared about fighting climate change they would invest in public transportation across the country, making those EV, since they A. Go shorter distances and B. Can carry more people, and they would also tax the shit out of the fossil fuel industry and manufacturing sector for their wonton pollution. It's called internalizing the externalities and it needed to happen 10 years ago. We're so fucked.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It just isn’t.

OH SHIT, SOMEONE CALL THE SCIENTISTS, THIS DUDE ON THE INTERNET HAS PROVED ALL OF YOU WRONG

renewable energy, which is a stop gap

Shill detected.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stopping climate change by...

Removing fossil fuels from the grid? Reducing methane leakage in natural gas transmission? Developing domestic nuclear energy?

Maybe reducing car-dependency to make more efficient use of land and reduce the excessive amounts of taxpayer money being dumped to subsidize suburban development? Reducing inefficient flights between close cities (LAX-SFO, BOS-JFK-DCA)? Building more efficient buildings?

How about taking advantage of the already insanely efficient supply chains in China that allow for the development of sub-10k EVs? Helping those companies launch in the US and bring their expertise with them to accelerate the EV transition like China has?

Nah, let's just give some more money to a few big EV manufacturers, I'm sure that'll fix everything.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than one thing can happen at the same time.

I'm sorry for shattering your world-view like this.

[–] zephyreks@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You realize how much money is going towards EV subsidies? They're extremely inefficient uses of money.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not nearly enough. We need to be subsidizing them to the level we subsidize oil.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The only way to stop climate change is to drastically reduce the human population.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

Ok, you first.