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The Pentagon Is Accelerating AI and Autonomous Technology America’s military leaders are racing to deploy thousands of autonomous weapons and an AI-powered air monitoring system for Washington D.C.

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[–] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There really would be no way to have an interface that shuts it down, that an AI wouldn't be able to compromise. Though I imagine the military will set up a plan to blow up it's connections to power and the internet should it go rouge.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People use the term AI too loosely. We don't actually have artificial intelligence. We have neural networks that can perform tasks based on training data, but it's not actually intelligent by any means. That said, fully autonomous systems have existed for decades already. Look up CIWS or CRAM.

[–] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not going to get into a "no real Scottsman" arugement about the advancements in this field

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Good lord. You're talking about programs being smart enough to disable their own killswitch. That's not a fucking thing.

[–] Zippy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Worse. They are taking about a program that has some sort of motivation or desires to disable the kill switch. It is quite silly yet. Worst case is a program bug that somehow disables. That would be highly unlikely. Particularly in such a way it would be dangerous.

[–] ProfessorZhu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm assuming that op was asking about something like this I had read about it before the air force denied it and I imagine most people who have seen that haven't seen the denial. They were also asking about what the military is "looking to build" I was trying to meet the op where they were and you came in with a pointless "akshully!"

[–] Uncle_Sheo217@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder what would go down if a CWIS managed to go rogue. Like I know it’s literally impossible, but if it was what would it do? Would a Phalanx just fire 20mm at random? It’s an interesting hypothetical imo. Obv I agree with you that current tech is most def not even close to smart enough to disable their own programming

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The Phalanx does auto target. It just can't fire on its own. They're designed to shoot down missiles and humans can't aim that fast so they're fully autonomous except for the fire control. From what I remember targets are assigned and prioritized by the AEGIS system on the ship but the Phalanx is designed to do all of the actual targeting on it's own so that if the ship targeting stuff is damaged it can still function perfectly fine without it.

Theres a short video out there of a phalanx targeting and tracking a passenger plane. Aparently they're also known to track birds and people walking around on the the ship.

So as far as one going rogue, all it would take is for the person in the control room to give it the fire command at the wrong time. Of course they fire at 4,500 rounds per minute and their large magazine only holds 1,550 rounds, so it's spree of carnage would be pretty short lived.

[–] AmidFuror@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Better dead than rouge, I always say.