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    [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 59 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    This is why I switched from Ubuntu to Debian.

    [–] limelight79@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

    Same here. What especially irritated me was that even though I installed the .deb firefox and followed the directions to disable snap firefox, occasionally Ubuntu went ahead and reinstalled snap firefox for me.

    [–] Pulsar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Ubuntu was great, until Unity debacle, when I switched to Mint DE. Few years later I returned to an Unity free Ubuntu just to be welcomed with snaps and Ubuntu pro.

    [–] lengau@midwest.social 3 points 1 month ago

    Canonical have made the same mistake three times as far as desktop environments are concerned, IMO:

    1. 2004: went with GNOME
    2. 2010: made Unity as a way to rid themselves of the hostility of the GNOME devs
    3. 2017: Instead of leaving GNOME in the dust, they went back.

    IMO using GNOME is an abusive relationship.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    For me it was when I was trying to use some Android tools and it tried to install the snap version. The snap version was broken of course.

    [–] dditty@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    When I first returned to Linux several years ago I started with Ubuntu, since it was the only distro I had used. I got confused when I installed Firefox and other apps via apt but instead got snap versions. This (very miniscule) gripe is enough of a reason for me to not recommend Ubuntu to new users anymore.

    Ubuntu is dead on the desktop.

    [–] renzev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

    It's not a miniscule gripe tho. Snap is still broken for many users, and relying on it for something as critical as a web browser is asking for trouble. Experimental technologies like snap should be opt-in for users who are willing to deal with the issues they create. Do they really expect a novice to see firefox's filepicker not behaving correctly, and think "Aha, an XDG desktop portal issue! Let me drop everything I'm doing and go troubleshoot that" ? Ubuntu is meant to be linux for normies, they don't have the time or the knowledge to deal with snap.

    [–] needanke@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    installs Firefox LSR

    (I am still very happy having made the switch to debian, although I would like to switch to plasma 6 at some point xD)

    [–] toaster@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    How has your experience been so far?

    [–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 1 month ago

    Exactly that same, really. There were a few things I did that I liked about Ubuntu, like the tray icon extension, but otherwise its nearly identical minus snaps.