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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (20 children)

This sort of story is dumb. Is that really the reason you wouldn't vote for someone? There must be more compelling points. So who is this for?

I think it's just circle-jerky "the team I hate also smells icky" stuff, like when Alex Jones said Obama and Hillary literally smelled like sulfur.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

I mean I get what you're saying but... If someone can't manage their own personal hygiene, especially with all the resources in the world, how in hell can they manage a country?

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

You have to remember, anyone voting for Trump is fucking stupid as hell; it might actually work on them.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the going low we’ve spent a decade arguing over. Well informed voters with strong morals are all either voting dem or holding out for the Dems to go left. This is us appealing to the common jackass who voted on vibes and thinks strength is more important than policy. The people who think strongman is a compliment. We aren’t even caring if they vote dem, we’re trying to kill their enthusiasm to vote for trump. Because appealing to Americans better nature didn’t work

[–] jhymesba@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

In 2016, up to Election day, I was reasonably confident Clinton would win. I didn't like her, and I thought she was too right-wing, but the other side was objectively terrible and filled with awful people. I betted on American decency...and lost.

This year? If it takes saying the shitgibbon literally smells like shit to convince people to not vote for him, then let's start pointing out the shitgibbon actually smells like shit (and other unsavoury stuff).

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I mean if the felonies didn't change your mind... Maybe the smell will? XD

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

You know, first he grabbed by the pussy, and I said alright. Then he stole nuclear secrets for the Russians, and I was that’s ok. Then he attempted a coup, and I still didn’t care. But now… oh now he’s gone too far! He stinks! I can’t vote for a smelly guy!

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Part of me agrees and wishes our politics could be more elevated than this, but American democracy is at the point where we're banking on a Taylor Swift endorsement to save us from literal fascists from taking over. That's where we're at.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's unfortunately how you win these days. Campaigns in the past tried to take the high road when Trump went low. That doesn't work. So this is what we get.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

you're getting voted down, but yeah, "taking the high road" didn't do shit, so here we are.

[–] EnderWiggin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Highly recommend folks check out the podcast Behind the Bastard's episodes "How The Liberal Media Helped Fascism Win" for more information on this topic.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I'll add to my list, thanks.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's gonna piss Trump off so I'm cool.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

If true, it could indicate some sort of mental decline, basic hygiene around coworkers is expected when you're competing in one of the largest popularity contests in the world.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

If a person cannot accept the reality of hygeine and cannot take criticism, they are unfit to lead.

Okay, but think about the person who would vote for him because he's powerful, won't succumb to that prissy woke-ism, etc.

Like it or not, but people vote on vibes all the time, and thinking he's a cool guy who will drain the swamp (by cutting welfare and social programs) is better for him than being kind of a smelly loser. It undercuts the strongman narrative that Republicans are selling.

[–] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It's the journalistic version of junk food.

That said, I can't imagine he smells good. It makes the thought of Laura Loomer blowing him that much grosser

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Jones is a deranged liar though. It’s far more believable that Trump has poor hygiene than his histrionic idiocy about Obama.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One is weird shit based on fairy tales that is obviously made up. The other is entirely plausible and consistent with other reports I've read about how he smells. It may be frivolous but it's not the same.

Also we're talking about someone who would be expected to meet world leaders and other noteworthy people in person on a regular basis. If he's physically disgusting, that's a very bad look for all of us.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Bro if he can't even take care of himself how do you think he will take care of us?

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No, I don't think stories like this have anything to do with trying to convince voters to not vote for Trump because he smells bad. There's a pretty strong smear campaign going against him right now, and he doesn't realize that he's the critical piece to the campaigns success. Every time he insists that he isn't weird, or insists that he doesn't smell, suddenly half of the shit that he's talking about ends up being trying to defend his image on the public stage. The reason that silly little things like "he smells like ass, ketchup, makeup, w.e" are actually important right now is that Trump might see it. Someone related to Trump might see it, and suddenly the thought is living rent free in their brain.

Trump can't help himself, he has to respond. What kind of strong leader spends all their time whining about what other people are saying? He could smell like a fucking dumpster as long as he leads the country correctly, no?

Not only that, if they aren't Trump, they could probably make money off of interviews about whatever other weird shit surrounds Trump. It's a strategy that makes them (Magats and Trump) start to point fingers at one another, and honestly that's exactly what needs to happen if we want to prevent a conservative win in November.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Smear campaign? He is and always has been the smear. The dude is incredibly vile in every way possible and always has been.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

If elected, he represents you and your country internationally. This could have an impact on negotiations etc. Maybe not with leaders who prefer to sit on the other end of an insanely long table though.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is a valid line of inquiry if you consider that not taking care of basic personal hygiene is a symptom of mental incompetence. We do not want to elect a mentally incompetent leader. By all visible evidence, the man has working arms and hands that should presumably be able to reach to wash himself. So if he goes around smelling like a toilet dumpster then something is mentally wrong there.

Of course there have been numerous other indications of such issues beyond the reports of stench.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

is a symptom of mental incompetence. We do not want to elect a mentally incompetent leader.

I would prefer a person with a some disorders which sometimes have such a downside to a "normal" person, other things being equal.

Also people may "take care of basic personal hygiene" and still become stinky 5 times sooner than healthy people, have you considered that?

Ableism is bad.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“ disorders” like being a malignant narcissist? Raging and flailing in wrath and desire for vengeance? Maybe not the best idea.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I said "some". No, I know that's a good idea. Basically some disorders make one less of an ape. Which is a good thing, if you are not a monarch or an authoritarian ruler which need to be apes else they won't see a coup until it happens.

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I guess but it depends which one. Whatever the fuck is wrong with Trump as far as his mental/personality disorders is disqualifying.

[–] webadict@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I'll take "Things you don't believe" for $200.

I would prefer someone who didn't try to overthrow an election be in charge of our country, and sadly Trump absolutely fails that very simple litmus test.

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[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is dumb, and not the reason anyone should not vote for him. That said, someone who foreign leaders don't want to be in a room with could present a problem.

I hope this article doesn't convince people, but instead they are convinced by the many, many others showing he is criminal and selfish. It is somewhat satisfying to have someone you really dislike have other undesirable qualities.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Another way to think about it, at some point even at McDonald's you'd get fired for poor hygiene if you constantly showed up to work smelling awful. That standard should especially apply to a diplomatic role in government.

But yeah, this is bottom tier reason not to elect him.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You know doesn't smell like shit?

Kamala Harris. Can tell with your eyes she smells amazing.