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[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Germans no doubt have a single compound word for Annoyed-I-Am-Asked-To-Be.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No.

But at least for work references, we are legally not allowed to say negative things about an employee, which is kind of bonkers.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It just creates a very specific language of what is mentioned and how emphatically things are expressed and how things are formulated.

We wish him all the best in his future endeavors: he sucks

We wish him continued success in his career: he was a good employee.

We all regret his decision to leave and look forward to maybe work with him in the future: he was an outstanding employee.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

...or it could mean anything else. You don't know which secret code book the author used or if there even was a screening process.

In essence, references are meaningless. They don't contain any useful information.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, in Germany there is a very specific code.

[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No, there is not. There literally can't be, because if a "code" would be underhanded criticism, it would be illegal. Simple as that.

So you end up with a bunch of people trying to interpret the codes from both sides, but if they use the same interpretation is impossible to tell.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

The code is not written anywhere so good luck suing your employer for "wishing you all the best in your future endeavors".

Example one: https://www.betriebsrat.de/news/achtung-arbeitszeugnis-20424?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoPvXq8HjiAMVbJRQBh0XOS9bEAAYAiAAEgKk1PD_BwE

[–] starchylemming@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

there was/is a code and the law also adapted to that lol

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Contributes to improving the working atmosphere with their sociability: they get drunk at work

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

I'm in the States. My wife was trying to get a new job. Her current job was veeery specific on what they could say. Nothing subjective. Mostly limited to things like attendance and punctuality.