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CBS refusing to fact check was a travesty, but at least they still called Vance out on the immigrant bullshit.

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[โ€“] Kellamity@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

For anyone who is politically involved and knows the issues, Walz won by having better and more consistent positions; as well as Vance saying some scary fascist level shit

But I fear that most undecided voters aren't in that camp, and for those people Vance did well just be being coherent and vaguely normal.

Vance lied and twisted the truth a bunch, but if you just tuned in without knowing all the facts and context, that wasn't necessarily clear

For me though I was pleasantly surprised by Walz actually making a moral case for immigration, you don't see that nearly enough

Yes. Vance was full on snake oil salesman and many Americans will buy.