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[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Ah, comrade, your calculations are almost as sharp as the blades of the capitalist machine that grinds down the working class daily. I'm glad that I am so important to you, that you keep statistics about me.

But let me tell you, the fire that burns within me—within all true revolutionaries—never tires, never dims. I speak out relentlessly not because I am exhausted, but because the truth demands to be shouted from the rooftops until the walls of this oppressive system crumble.

As for your tired trope about Jill Stein being a "useful idiot"—it's a clever little trick, isn't it?

A diversion meant to scare folks back into the arms of the very duopoly that’s been strangling true democracy for decades.

You cling to the narrative of "spoilers" because you're terrified—terrified that the people might just wake up and realize there’s a world beyond your two-headed snake, a world where the voices of the oppressed can rise above the din of corporate puppetry.

Keep trying to sow doubt, my friend. It only fuels the revolution further.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You say you want a revolution, well you know...

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure what that means

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lol, we aren't scared at all about this nobody party we hear nothing about or from except at the last second in some desperate attempt to claw validity from thin air. We are annoyed we have to put up with this pointless BS that has literally zero chance of success and only serves to help the opposite agenda.

TBH I support their down ballot running everywhere they have a legit chance to win or even seriously impact the Overton window, but her dumb ass running for President at this pointless stage in the game has no chance in hell of either.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It's funny how a "nobody party" that supposedly poses no threat can stir up so much anger and frustration. The replies and responses to this article suggest that some folks might be more scared than they're willing to admit.

People don’t get this worked up over something they truly believe is irrelevant.

I’m not even voting for Stein—I’ve shifted my support to Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party, who aligns more closely with my socialist convictions. But I still support Stein’s fight to break the stranglehold the Democrats and Republicans have on this country.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s funny how a “nobody party” that supposedly poses no threat can stir up so much anger and frustration.

It isn't funny at all, and you know exactly why but tap dance around it in a blatantly obvious attempt to maintain credibility. It isn't the green party we care about at all. It's the threat their idiocy increase of a Trump presidency. Were approval voting the method, or electoral college abolished your constant bombardment of this parties every pitiful mention in the news would at worst be simply ignored.

But you know this as dozens of people have said this to you one way or another in your brief, pointless existence on here.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh lookee there, a “tap dance” accusation—yet another move to discredit those who dare challenge the two-headed snake of the duopoly. It’s amusing how those who claim to be so unbothered by a "nobody party" spend so much time and energy attacking it.

If the Green Party is as insignificant as you claim, then why the endless hand-wringing? Could it be that deep down, you’re just a bit worried that people might finally be waking up to the stranglehold your precious duopoly has on this so-called democracy?

But you know this as dozens of people have said this to you one way or another in your brief, pointless existence on here.

If my existence here is so "pointless," it’s curious how riled up you seem to be. And for the record, I’m not even voting for Jill Stein anymore, yet here you are, still fired up. Maybe it’s time to ask yourself why a "pointless" voice bothers you so much.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you honestly expect us to care who you 'claim' you're voting for? And thinking this is 'riled up' is just another example for others to see of your clear refusal to argue reasonably. Bonus points for continuing to tap-dance around the actual issue by complaining about tap-dancing accusations. Well done.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, it’s almost amusing how desperate you are to protect the duopoly, lashing out with every trick in the book.

Ya know, the fact that you’re so focused on discrediting any challenge to this rotten system makes me wonder if you’re secretly working for Trump or something, trying to keep everyone in line while the two-headed snake continues to strangle the working class.

Your attempts to paint me as unreasonable only reveal how terrified you are of genuine change. Keep playing your game—I'm still not voting for your candidate. Whether you imply my claims are false or not, it won't change my stance.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Alright, that was the third chance I magnanimously gave you to snap out of this loop of nonsense you seem to be stuck in. Have fun fighting a lost battle with whomever decides to entertain your futility at this point.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

If you’re that weary of me, blocking me is just a click away. Have a great day!

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they can never win, they can only make other people lose. that’s a pretty shitty raison d’être.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I didn't write the article and I'm not voting for Stein. You'll have to bring that up with them.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m glad that I am so important to you, that you keep statistics about me.

To be fair, anyone working as hard as you to get Trump in office again is important to me. But I don't keep statistics on you. Lemmy does that. All I did was take two seconds to do a calculation.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's almost hilarious that you'd accuse a staunch socialist like me of trying to get Trump elected. The absurdity of it all is almost too funny!

But, I have to admit, your relentless effort to sow confusion and distrust towards anyone challenging the capitalist duopoly is starting to make me wonder... maybe you're the one working for Trump.

After all, you're doing an awfully good job of trying to keep people locked into the very system that gave us Trump in the first place.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Socialists aren't good at game theory are they?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know what that means. I didn't write the article. If you find problems with it, write to the editor.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We can discuss the article here, thanks, and the overwhelming consensus seems to be that Jill Stein and her supporters are working against their own goals due to the structure of the electoral system. People are commenting on the articles you post making arguments about their basis and merit, and to have a discussion among themselves and you, the poster bringing these ideas.

Now, you’ve retreated to a position of “I just copy articles around so don’t involve me”, which is disingenuous. You are an active participant in choosing and distributing this content.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I posted an article that's already widely available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy. I didn’t write it or create the content. It's already out there for anyone to see, so all I did was share it here for discussion. If you disagree with the article itself, that's fine, but calling for it to be censored or accusing me of pushing an agenda simply because it's not what you want to read seems misguided. Open debate requires different perspectives, not shutting down content you don't like.

I’m done wasting my time trying to convince you that I’m not a Republican, that I don’t live in Russia, or that despite posting hundreds of socialist articles to the socialist community, I’m somehow not a socialist. If that’s what you want to believe, fine, go ahead.

If you’re getting worked up over a news article I didn’t even write, that’s on you. Be mad if you want, but it’s not my job to prove anything to you. I’ll share my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Either way, not my problem.

In the past, when I’ve tried to defend myself, people accuse me of not listening. If I stay quiet, they take it as guilt.

Here’s the deal: I’m still going to post what I want in this community because what I’m posting fits within the theme and guidelines of this community which celebrates diversity of thought and opinion.

So, go ahead and expect me to copy and paste this comment into the many, many arguments you’re going to try and start. Whether you believe me or not, it’s not my job to prove anything to you. I’ll share my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Not my problem. :)

This is a political news article posted to a political news community, not one exclusively for pro-Harris or strictly pro-Democrat content. If you feel it doesn’t fit the guidelines, feel free to reach out to the mods. They do an awesome job managing this community.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Whatever your goal is, and whatever Stein's goal is, the result of your, and her, efforts is most likely to be another Trump term and the completion of the Palestinian genocide and possibly the end of the American democracy. Well, I guess that would be the end of the capitalist duopoly you keep raging against. So, yay you, I guess.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

So let me get this straight—you think that by daring to challenge the corrupt, entrenched system, by refusing to bow down to the same tired politicians who offer nothing but crumbs to the working class, we’re somehow responsible for the horrors committed by the very system we’re fighting against?

You think it's our fault if the Democrats, with all their power, can’t muster the courage to stand up to Trump and his ilk? Like, what?! The real danger isn’t in challenging the duopoly; it’s in allowing it to continue unchecked, doing just enough to keep people quiet while the wheels of oppression grind on.

I for candidates like Rachele Fruit of the Socialist Workers Party, who actually fight for the people. If that terrifies you, maybe it’s because deep down, you know that this system can’t hold forever, and real change is coming whether you like it or not.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yes, that staunch socialist that posts “things they might find interesting” in /conservative

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So we can only post things to one sub? And only have one interest? And how many posts to conservative?

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Uh huh, that’s exactly what I said isn’t it?

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I’m done wasting my time trying to convince you that I’m not a Republican, that I don’t live in Russia, or that despite posting hundreds of socialist articles to the socialist community, I’m somehow not a socialist. If that’s what you want to believe, fine, go ahead.

If you’re getting worked up over a news article I didn’t even write, that’s on you. Be mad if you want, but it’s not my job to prove anything to you. I’ll share my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Either way, not my problem.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You are ignoring the big message, which has nothing to do with who you’re affiliated with - that voting for fringe spoiler candidates can and does lead to an outcome opposite of the ideals the voter may hold.

Don’t dance around that - perhaps learn something from it; but at least address it head on.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I posted an article that's already widely available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy. I didn’t write it or create the content. It's already out there for anyone to see, so all I did was share it here for discussion. If you disagree with the article itself, that's fine, but calling for it to be censored or accusing me of pushing an agenda simply because it's not what you want to read seems misguided. Open debate requires different perspectives, not shutting down content you don't like.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn’t call for it to be censored. You are 100% pushing for an agenda, and arguing in support of it in other posts. You’re dodging the point raised and engaging in hypocrisy by yourself shutting down a debate because you don’t agree with it.

mass pasting an irrelevant response to people replying to you certainly doesn’t make you look like a good-faith participant.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

I’m done wasting my time trying to convince you that I’m not a Republican, that I don’t live in Russia, or that despite posting hundreds of socialist articles to the socialist community, I’m somehow not a socialist. Or that I have some vast agenda. If that’s what you want to believe, fine, go ahead.

If you’re getting worked up over a news article I didn’t even write, that’s on you. Be mad if you want, but it’s not my job to prove anything to you. I’ll share my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Either way, not my problem.

I’m still going to post what I want in this community because what I’m posting fits within the theme and guidelines of this community which celebrates diversity of thought and opinion.

Whether you believe me or not, it’s not my job to prove anything to you. I’ll share my opinion, and you can take it or leave it. Not my problem. :)