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[–] whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one on the left has no communal space. The one on the right does.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't really care. As a lifelong apartment dweller; I hate people and want nothing to do with them. Get me a house far away from civilisation and I'll be happy. Communal space, my arsehole.

[–] rexxit@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the insanity of people who advocate for densified housing, IMO. I loathe apartments and attached dwellings. It's like a dystopian future where you can't own anything or have private space. If I never have to share a wall or floor with someone again, it will be too soon.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s like a dystopian future where you can’t own anything or have private space.

That's our dystopian, low-density present.

[–] rexxit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've lived in 4 major cities including NYC, and several small cities. The small cities and green suburbs are light years better than the dense urban hellscapes, without exception. Apartment living is also universally awful. There's nothing desirable to me about what you idealize.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't bother. The regulars on this sub are totally out of touch with reality and normal people.

[–] rexxit@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I guess if I really wanted to scream at a wall, I'd make a c/fuck-fuckcars. These people are beyond help, but I hope they grow out of it so I don't have to live in high density hell because infinite growth is just accepted as normal.

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, they're welcome to go live in a box surrounded by crazy people - personally I'd rather be in a box six feel under than crammed in with them.

[–] lemming934@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In this case, the communal space is a forest far from housing. You can avoid people by walking alone through the forest.

I think that's a better experience than walking around your backyard

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I suppose since my country is very low population but very large I don't really see the problem. Everyone could have a house here and we'd still have plenty of room to space.

Sweden has a population of 10.5 million, ish, and an area of 447k square kilometres. Germany by contrast, has a population of around 80 million, and an area of 357k square kliometres.

That said, I believe low density can work just fine. You don't need highrises to improve population storage efficiency. Simple two-three story buildings work just fine too.

You could also lower the population, something modern society is managing just fine right now anyway. I personally really don't believe overpopulation is going to be a significant problem in the long run.

[–] lemming934@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Everyone could have a house here and we’d still have plenty of room to space.

You may not run out of wildlands, but if everyone is in large enough houses, it becomes difficult to get to the wildlands (or anywhere else you need to go) without using a car. For various reasons, !fuckcars@lemmy.world, is against designing cities around cars.

That said, I believe low density can work just fine. You don’t need highrises to improve population storage efficiency. Simple two-three story buildings work just fine too

I agree. The problem comes when you have large houses with big yards. If you instead have rowhouses, you have plenty of density to avoid car dependency (if the city is designed properly).