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[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 39 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

The Magic System was simplified, but was made more reactive with things like igniting oil spills

Man, fuck oil spills. You walk into the first dungeon, you set fire to an oil spill with a spell. Then you'll try dropping one of those laterns, which are always conveniently placed above the Exxon Valdez. And then, that's it, the fun is over, the joke is told, that's all you can do with oil spills.

I'd also really like to know what other examples there are of it being more reactive. You can't freeze the ground to make enemies slip. You can't zap a river to fry some fishes. You can't set fire to wood.

It really feels like some dev thought to themselves, we've got oil lamps, maybe we could have some of that drip out, and then the Sweet Little Lies guy said fuck yes, put lakes of oil into every dungeon, so I can claim we've made the magic system more reactive or some shit.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It can be too reactive as well. I love BG3, I did 3 full runs. But I never used the grease spell again after the first run. They made it flammable to the entire puddle. What that means in practical terms is every tiny candle can turn the entire puddle into a small amount of fire damage. The prevalence of flame sources also means this will nearly always happen. So instead of getting a bunch of prone enemies that are easier to hit, I have mildly annoyed enemies.

So now that question is in the back of my head whenever I see this. What kind of damage and reactivity are we talking about here?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I can't play Divine Divinity 2 anymore. Every. Single. Fight. is just lighting puddles on fire, and freezing them. Or you throw poison on the puddle, and then light it on fire! Wooo

[–] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

I mean for god's sake, you had a spell in each hand but they didn't do spell combos.

cmon man

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The larian games have some interesting interactions beyond just oil. You can make people slip on ice.

The old Magicka game also had some fun interactions that more games could learn from.

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I think they were talking about skyrim