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Young, vibrant and bubbly, YouTuber Tiba al-Ali became a hit with her fun-loving videos about her life.

She started her channel after moving from her native Iraq to Turkey at the age of 17 in 2017, talking about her independence, her fiancé, make-up and other things. Tiba appeared happy and attracted tens of thousands of subscribers.

This January she went back to Iraq to visit her family - and was murdered by her father. However, the killing was not considered to have been "pre-meditated" and her father was sentenced to only six months in prison.

Tiba's death sparked protests across Iraq about its laws regarding so-called "honour killings", the case highlighting how women are treated in a country where conservative attitudes remain dominant.

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[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because school children are not adults, religious parents that believe females are subservient to men will continue to compel their children to comply. Then, suddenly, instead of the Catholic Church impinging on all aspects of society, you have islamic groups impinging on all aspects of society - same game, different religion. France is a secular society and fought hard to get that way.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So what about the grown adult women that want to wear a hijab? You take away their agency with laws 'to protect the children' (where have I heard that excuse to control people before?)

I actually went to school with girls that wore the hijab. I asked them why they wore it, some said because their dad made them and others said it kept grown adult men from trying to hit on them on the bus.

If you want to help the girls who's fathers or husbands are forcing them to wear a hijab, then you should create a society where women don't have to be dependent on financial support from family members and they can make the decision themselves, rather then forcing them to dress like you personally want.

[–] DarthBueller@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Grown adult women aren't allowed to wear a hijab in public school either. Girls and women are perfectly free to wear whatever they want/are forced to wear by the men in their lives, outside of public schools.