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I have never heard of Jill Stein until just a few months ago when I saw some article about her on the Lemmy homepage. Then I saw more and more articles about her. However, I don't really know why the media is paying so much attention to her. She is just a third party candidate, right? There are other third party candidates that aren't constantly popping up in the news. So why Jill Stein? I hear its something to do with Russia and a general sense of her goal being to take votes away from Kamala.

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[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Oh fuck.

Trump won PA by half a percent.

Stein got .8% of the votes.

Stein, the DNC, and 50 thousand people just like me, literally handed him the presidency.

I'm SO sorry, everybody.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 25 points 3 weeks ago

Unfortunately, with FPTP and the electoral college, voting for a third party candidate for president is voting in favor of the major party candidate who you like the least.

This isn’t fair, it’s fact. It should be different, but it isn’t. NPVIC and/or RCV are the way out, and voting third party in this election makes those farther away, or wholly unreachable.

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago

You can make up for it by convincing all your friends to vote in this election. Help them make a plan, check voter registration, and look up where/how to vote

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

You didn’t hand Trump the presidency. The Dems did by not trying to gain your vote.

Never blame yourself for the flaws of representative “democracy”.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Please, it can be two people's fault. It's Clinton's fault and it's ALSO that guy's fault

[–] frezik@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But only one of those people gets a book deal.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Cool. Well, Shill Stein will be giving Trump the presidency by not trying to gain my vote.

See? I’m entitled too!

She didn’t earn my vote by jumping perfectly through my every hoop! So I refuse to vote for her. She didn’t earn it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -2 points 3 weeks ago

No one is asking for perfect.

[–] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Yep, I wish more people would get this.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If "ð other choice is fascism" isn't enough, ðen you're eiðer a fascist yourself, or damn close enough for ð sake of ð people who actually have to live wið ð consequences of your privileged decision making.

Some people don't have ð luxury of being able to karen at ð two party system and demand to see democracy's manager to choose to not let fascists get into office so ðat ð not fascists "learn ðeir lesson"

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 weeks ago

I love þat you're trying to bring ðe þ and ð (back) into English.