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Utah officials sued over failure to save Great Salt Lake: ‘Trying to avert disaster’
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The amount of water used for agriculture makes cutting down on residential use irrelevant.
It doesn't.
70% of the non agricultural water use is residential. Which means residential water use is a little more than 20% of the state's water usage. Let's be generous and say that watering yards is only 15% of the state's total per capita consumption.
15% of an already massively over taxed water system isn't anything to shake a fist at. It's even more important when you consider how much more water Utah is using than it's neighbors, which while difficult to precisely calculate, isn't a small amount by any measure.
We need food, we don't need green lawns.
Lawn use of water in Utah (by all entities, residential, government, and business) is between 6-8%, half of your "generous 15%" https://utahrivers.org/are-we-running-out-of-water#:~:text=Outdoor%20lawn%20watering%20in%20our,of%20Utah's%20total%20water%20use.
And that use is spread across millions of people. Even if you cut lawn use by 75%, you're cutting at most 6% of the states use. Or can cut agriculture use by 10% and get a larger reduction in overall water use.
We don't need alfalfa. We don't need flood irrigation. We also don't need Lawns, but that is such a small percentage you might as well tell people to stop flushing their toilet when they shit.
We don't need alfalfa to feed livestock if more people went vegan, though.
Ruminants are much more efficient processors of plant fiber than humans are. They also eat a lot of agricultural waste that humans can't.
To replace the calories lost from meat, we'd actually need *more."
Not to mention that we'd be creating a lot of agricultural waste we can no longer deal with.
No offense if you're on a vegan diet, but vegan diets are ridiculous. They aren't the solution they're purported to be, and most people can't stay on them longer than a few years before health issues creep in.
Not to mention the swathes of the population that are diabetic or prone to diabetes that require a low carb, high fat diet that can't be easily done vegan, and can't be done in a healthy way without animal fat and protein. Not without a lot more nuts and avocados which are, as it happens, huge problems for the environment on their own.
Ruminants might be more efficient processors of plant fiber, but the transformation of plant fiber into meat for consumption is a hugely inefficient process.
Meh. Most of it isn't traveling very far. You're tilting at windmills now. None of it travels half as far as the bananas you put on your oatmeal, which has also traveled farther to most Americans than cattle feed to most cattle.
There are a lot of processes we could be doing now efficiently. It would be better to eat exclusively locally grown meat and produce and pasture raise every farm animal. It wouldn't be affordable but it would be environmentally better.
I don't think you've been following the science.
I'm not going to sit here and spell it out for you, because it's a fruitless effort. But know that you're wrong and the vast majority of the world's scientists agree.
In Utah, it absolutely does not. It takes a massive amount of water to keep lawns, parks, and golf courses green. The amount of 'green' space that you'd get from adding up everyone's lawns isn't insignificant.
You can remove excess from more than one group at a time.
Oh look, another 'come after anyone but me' kind of guy.