News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
I'm totally struggling with the mixed units here: potential energy being compared to power. "How much hp does your car have?" "A tank of gas." Wut?
This line right here: "battery storage equivalent to the output of 20 nuclear reactors." I suspect the author has considered GW with GW/hr..
Batteries have output power capacities as well as storage capacity. For grid-scale applications it's common to list both. The EIA announcement that this article is referencing only focused on power capacity, which is directly comparable to a traditional power plant. The EIA could have provided some additional information, but the article is technically correct and doesn't mix units.
the chart is in GW, not GWh. energy would be more useful there, because these are entirely uncomparable things. NPPs work best at constant high power, batteries can run out in what, 2h at peak power, which might be what they have shown there
It's a hell of a thing isn't it, seeing a journalist speak nonsense this confidently
This is sadly par for the course in green tech articles. Journalists who flunked high school sciences should not be reporting on this stuff, or at least consult with someone who has even a passing knowledge of physics.
Now regarding actual storage amounts, I have noticed utilities seem to target around 4 hours of capacity at full discharge. That seems to be the sweet spot for lithium ion at least. So by that measure, 1 GW would translate to 4 GWh…ish.
These battery farms are more about dealing with spikes in power demand than bulk energy storage. This is still a valuable role in that they can replace peaker plants which are often low-efficiency diesel monstrosities, but we still need something else for the latter application. Mechanical storage schemes like pumped hydro come up a lot in that discussion, though it's possible something like flow batteries might be a better fit for this than lithium ion if you want to go the battery route?
I'm not an expert on any of this though, so feel free to correct me.