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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (7 children)

We should remember that most Americans still live in blue states with sane governments. The federal government can't just barge in and do whatever it wants, and if tries to do so, the social contract that binds the nation together is broken and secession becomes a real possibility. But that's unlikely because Trump is far too clueless to know about any of the problems he'll run into if he tries to implement any of his plans.

Which is fine for him because it was always a con anyway. He talks and acts out of his ass. What he will do is anyone's guess, but it'll at least be restrained by what's realistically possible.

[–] Lennnny@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And what about the ones, like me, in red states? How fucked are we? (I know the answer and hence drunk and high rn)

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago

Join us in the PNW! We have legal weed!

[–] yrmp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Realistically people should start to self sort and leftists should start to purchase and train with guns if they don’t have them for their family’s protection.

[–] DeLacue@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I'd love be as optimistic as you but unless Trump changes his mind the US will get a brainwormed fanatical anti-vaccier in charge of deciding which vaccines are safe to use. Even if the states don't cooperate with trump's agenda there are so many long standing federal institutions which till now you've never needed to think about that are about to get wrecked.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

And what about project 2025. That total teeheee not our plan teeheee thing …

[–] stalfoss@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago

My so called blue state of California just voted against minimum wage increase, against rent control, against banning slavery, and for increasing the war on drugs. At least this time we narrowly voted to approve gay marriage (unlike last time where we banned it)

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

The Federal government CAN just barge in. We specifically designed the structure that way. Federal supercedes state.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Federal laws trump state laws every time, those blue states will be just as shit as the red states in no time

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Support from local and state governments does make a difference though. While federal agencies can still enforce these laws, local/state agencies could look the other way. Cannabis is still federally illegal, but some states have basically said "no thanks, we're good as long as you stick to our rules on it."

It comes down to how much state governments want to go to bat for their constituencies and how much the federal government wants to press the issue. All else being equal, I'd rather be in a state that stands up for my rights than one that doesn't.

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As somebody who has lived through the end of a democracy, trust me when I say the federal government will steamroll through local and state governments

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where, if you don't mind me asking?

[–] yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, I'm not going to give details for my own safety

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

He will absolutely move the military into a blue state to force compliance. This is how the next civil war will start. Red Force and blue resistance.