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Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

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[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I don’t understand the Democrat strategy at all

Someone else summed it up better than I can. The democratic party is doing exactly what it set out to do.

Nitter link.

They have no interest in furthering progressive policies so they don't. That's why the DNC chair is calling Bernie Sander's critique of the party's platform bullshit right now, instead of admitting he's right.

The system is as it does.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean, realistically, they'd adopt leftist talking points and then abandon them after they won, like they did in 2008.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And in 2020. I think I can count on one hand the policies he ran on getting put into place, and I lost track of how many some Boogeyman kept it from happening.

But we always gave more weapons to Israel without question or congressional approval.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

without question or congressional approval

Do you think Congress wouldn't have approved it? The Democrats are mostly in AIPAC's pockets, and the Republican would send them even more arms if they could, since they are openly, vocally pro-genocide.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

At the least, we could have had a shot at getting congress to stop sending arms. We did to Saudi Arabia based on what they were doing to Yemen, thanks to Bernie Sanders.

Would they have? 90%, both parties are in the pocket of AIPAC. But to at least try to do something is better than sitting on our hands and going "welp, brown people are gonna die anyways, next dude will do it more.*

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, and to be fair, i think his failure wasn't due to a lack of desire. Biden is an institutionalist, past the point of logic and reason. My understanding is that they can procedurally remove the filibuster without a super majority at the beginning of each session, but he failed to consider eliminating it until late in his presidency. He also still refuses to entertain expanding the court; I know he couldn't do it, but if they had any sense at all, they'd be running on it. He has to much, "respect," for these institutions to do anything to change them, even as they crumble in the face of fascism.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

i think some of this is true, but I don't think that they would be implementing all of the same policies. maybe all the things that they actually care about are common between the two, and that's what he means.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s why the DNC chair is calling Bernie Sander’s critique of the party’s platform bullshit right now

Holy crap. I read your link--the hubris of these DNC chairperson idiots to call names after losing so thoroughly. Its like they havent gotten the election results yet.