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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 54 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

For reference, the allegedly infringing patents are these:

[–] blargbluuk@sh.itjust.works 113 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How do these not apply to the majority of games, these sound so insanely broad. Patents are so stupid.

[–] Lojcs@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Sony has a patent for an input device having two data streams at once

usb has more i think.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 25 points 5 days ago (2 children)

They only apply to games from Japan. This is the Japanese patent system.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But why in english if it's (seemingly) domestic only.
Are they mandated to submit in English?

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

The posted text could be translation. Kinda reads like it.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

How many Japanese games are there? Nintendo better pick up the pace.

[–] conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 73 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Holy hell.

Even by the standard of "all software patents are nonsense", these are a fucking joke.

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 41 points 5 days ago

It basically hits any game with mounts or vehicles.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 34 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Hold my bacon, one can patent the idea that a game character switches mounts depending on a given state? (Image 3)

[–] Yuki@kutsuya.dev 22 points 5 days ago

Seems like it. So when you come down from the sky on your flying mount and get close to the ground, you swap to a horse mount for example.

How can one patent this.. wtf!

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Software patents are fucked, ain't they? You can implement a thing using completely different code, algorithms, hell even programming languages/CPU architectures, and you'd still be infringing. There was some stupid fight over a simple slider UI element to unlock a phone a few years back.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah software patents should be like "this exact code" or something along these lines. I mean patenting "hello world" should give you billions

[–] VonReposti@feddit.dk 6 points 5 days ago

Code is already copyrighted by default, so no need for software patents. Luckily software patents are null and void in EU, so I don't have to worry about that.

[–] MirthfulAlembic@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

The solutions here don't seem to really be solutions in my opinion, especially the third one. It's like if the problem a patent solves was "being able to individually package sandwiches on a conveyor belt" and the solution was "have a machine that recognizes where one sandwich ends and another begins so it can stop and start packaging appropriately." Like, no kidding, but how?

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

So the first two seem to deal with throwing a capture item at a creature (wild pokemon) and/or releasing a character's own creature to fight it (essentially first seen in Legends Arceus, tossing a ball at a pokemon to aggro it and then fighting it with your pokemon). The third one is, as others have said, Mount transitions (at least in pokemon, also first seen in Legends Arceus if you only count ride pokemon; if vehicles are included I believe the first would be Sword/Shield). Though if vehicles are included Nintendo would have a hard time fighting that one. Vehicle transformation, especially in racing games, has been around forever.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Why are there dates in the corners?

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These are the patent publication dates, for more details you can check https://patentscope.wipo.int/ with patents 7545191, 7493117 and 7528390

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These look like they are after Palworld was released. Was Nintendo just sitting on the patent since Pokeman red/blue? What an unintuitive legal system they have over in Japan.

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

How can you infringe on a patent that doesn't exist when you're writing the code?hopefully Palworld can afford the lawyers to kill this off now.

[–] Grofit@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

If these were stories I was picking up to implement I would be asking the BA to elaborate some more 😂

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world -4 points 5 days ago

Looking through the first one's content and it seems reasonable? The patent's abstract is supposed to be as widely applicable as legally permitted, so it's like a completely different language on top of legalese.