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Someone turned 80k into like 1.2 million betting on Tesla calls or something and hedged with a Kamala win bet it was like 50k tesla/30k Kamala and they turned it into 1.2 million via Tesla somehow

Is it like

  • bet 1/2 on unlikely thing
  • bet 1/2 on likely thing
  • rely on gains on either side averaging out to at least ++
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[–] walter_wiggles@lemmy.nz 24 points 3 days ago (9 children)
[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Thats more like the gambling we all know and love

Can we learn to estimate these odds on sight like that?

[–] degen@midwest.social 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not so much about estimating odds as it is limiting the potential downside. Hedging is the rational part of things lol

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Can you give me a really classic and rational/prototypical example or hedging? Like is it be stretegically cynical/ Thinking in Bets?

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The classic non-stock example is the apple farmer. Apple trees take a long time to grow, years before they produce any significant amount of apples.

Suppose I plant an orchard of the new Awesome Amy Apple trees. I'm betting those will really take off in two years, so they'll be really profitable. But since these apples are my entire income, and I'd rather not eat an entirely apple-based diet by then, I'm going to hedge my investment. I'm giving up some profit to reduce my risks.

I'm making a contract to sell half my apples for, say, 20 dollars per bucket. Now, they might be worth 40, but they might also be completely worthless if the Perfect Pete Apple becomes more popular. So I'm giving up some potential profit in exchange for certainty by hedging.

Another type of hedge would be me planting 75% Awesome Amy, and 25% Perfect Pete. I'm still assuming the alliteration will win the day, but by spreading my investment around, I'm reducing my risk.

To translate this to the stock market, the first examples would be to buy options for the future. The second example is simply spreading your investments.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Me reading this like "Noooo, if you plant Awesome Amy Apples you won't get Awesome Amy Apples, you have to graft Awesome Amy Apples branches onto existing apple trees to get Awesome Amy Apples!"

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Does it at least take a long time, thereby not entirely ruining my analogy?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

It doesn't ruin the analogy at all because you'd still need to plant apple trees to make an orchard! It's just that apples aren't true to seed so apple trees you plant give nasty apples. It's more of a fun fact about apples lol.

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