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Why are distro communities turning linux more and more into Windows and Mac OS clones?

This is why I use Arch.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Are you trying to gatekeep Linux to only power users that use a CLI, are way above the average in computer literacy, and happen to know the nuances between Linux and other operating systems?

This is the kind of thinking that will prevent adoption to the masses. Linux doesn't have to be stupid hard to use. There are specific distros like vanilla Arch for advanced users to tinker with and options like Manjaro and Ubuntu that are ideally functional out of the box for those that just want something to work.

What Manjaro is doing here is dumb AF, and should rightfully be heavily criticized, but you statement feels like your saying you should have to be a computer expert to use any Linux distro, and that's dumb.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works -5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

This is the kind of thinking that will prevent adoption to the masses.

Why do people always assume that is even something desirable? All that will get us is more requests for support with fewer people actually helping.

Linux doesn’t have to be stupid hard to use.

And the assumption that GUI=easy and CLI=hard should have really died in the 90s when it started.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As someone who read at least 2/3 of the DOS 6 manual when it came out, and have used a variety of Linux flavors as well, a command prompt is the least helpful interface devised. What do you type there? How do you let the computer know when you're done typing? If the answers seem obvious to you, think about why, and what on the screen would point you that way if you hadn't had training. People are very visual, in general, and a simple interface such as a mouse that directs focus and has a minimal amount of interaction options is far easier to get started with, especially if the GUI has culturally intuitive icons (save needs updating).

I don't think the power of the command line, or text interfaces in general, can be overstated, but even the most helpful text interfaces, such as those found in some IDEs, require prior knowledge to be useful. This isn't going to work for the majority of people.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you think GUI is intuitive you have never worked in support and despaired at people trying their best to get "simple" concepts like "left-click" vs. "right-click" wrong.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 59 minutes ago

Oh, I have. Now imagine giving those people a command line.