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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 38 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Or, now hear me out, Socialism.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Absolutely. Just don't use that word. The propaganda is so goddamn ingrained in the American psyche we might as well just call it something else and try to bypass that fight.

[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

The freedom to eat, the freedom to earn a fair day's pay for a fair day's honest work, the freedom to afford a house, the freedom from wall street usury, the freedom patriotically build secure and supportive communities, freedom healthcare, protecting the landscape of the greatest country on earth for all of America's generations to come, etc.

Loads of ways to spin free market socialism, take your pick.

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Hand companies over to their workers, call it supercapitalism, and Americans will eat that shit up

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

"Blue collar capitalism"

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

"true capitalism" or some shit

Disparage actual capitalism for not being capitalist enough, and do an Indiana Jones hot swap for the actual end goal of worker ownership.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

It's just a branding problem that needs a more modern name for today's modern voter

Democracy+

Democracy McDemocracyFace

Buddy Democracy

Msilaicos

Ocialismsay

[–] whithom@discuss.online 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, don’t use that word haha. We don’t need another “Red Scare”

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The Red Scare never ended, it's important to directly combat anti-socialist sentiment because you are going to be labeled a Communist even if you call yourself a mild progressive.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Or rebrand socialism and push it in a more efficient way.

[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 1 points 8 hours ago

Haha, yes. Make it full on ‘Merica Dream! But then it’s just plain ole socialism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why rebrand what already exists? What way would be more "efficient?"

[–] whithom@discuss.online 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t agree on your tanky communism, ML. Go away

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] whithom@discuss.online 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't know what's prompting you to go ballistic like this, you might want to log off for a bit.

[–] whithom@discuss.online -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I’m fine, lol. I’m just not interested in hearing from yet another ML shill about how great china is, despite actual genocide and tons of billionaires.

Talk some shit about china and I’ll have a rational calm conversation with you about socialism… otherwise fuck the hell off wumao.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I really don't think you're fine if you're flying off the handle on random internet users accusing them of being paid by the CPC just for being Marxists. I think you should probably take a step back from the keyboard for a while.

It's funny that you preface your civility on me immediately licking your boot before we can discuss anything. Any such conversation would be worthless to begin with if you can't come at it on polite terms from the start.

Furthermore, this conversation was never about China to begin with, the idea that I was going to pivot to exalting China is just conspiracy theory material.