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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You watched Voyager before before DS9? Damn

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Hum... I did.

The Voyager synopsis on Netflix is much more interesting than the DS9.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Voyager definitely has a better theme/synopsis. On paper, DS9 seems rather dull (being a fixed space station, instead of an exploring spaceship). They even had to add The Defiant to allow for that exploring kick.

Character development, and long story plots wins with DS9. Arguably the best Trek series (though, whatever is your favorite is the best Trek series, no need to gatekeep)

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of DS9's biggest draws is the character development. To quote Dune: "The slow blade penetrates the shield."

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Oh, I do think DS9 is one of the best Star Trek shows (tied there with Lower Decks). But the synopsis isn't great.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Netflix has a paragraph telling you what each show is about.

It is actually worse and less informative than it sounds, but it and a picture are all the static elements there to compare the shows.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've seen Voyager. i still have not seen DS9 =(

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're missing out. First season has a lot of weird but once they find their footing its got a solid story and lives on continuity.

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And the writing is SO much better than Voyager.

The technobabble on Voyager drove me crazy because there was no consistency and just constant deus ex machina solutions that popped into a character's head that magically fixed everything.

All it took was realigning or remodulating or polarizing or rerouting the EPS relays or the dilithium matrix or the deflector dish. And one character would always first suggest one technobabble solution so the next character could explain why it won't work and magically be inspired with a new technobabble solution that will work. Once I noticed that pattern, it honestly ruined Voyager for me because it happens constantly.

TNG had their share of technobabble, but it always felt like they tried to stay logically consistent. DS9 kept the technobabble pretty limited because the plot was way more important, and I think it really shines because of that.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'd never realized... after about a decade of writing for a particular show, they'd locked themselves into some kind of...

edit: also worth its own post, if only to carry across some kind of...

[–] Nima@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

perhaps I will give it a go

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

A lot of millenials did because they were too young to see what DS9 was trying to do, where Voyager was everything kids loved about TNG (flashy effects, cool set designs and humor randomly spliced through out the episodes, sometimes in inappropriate ways that do break up what ever plot was trying to hold it together.