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Unity bosses sold stock days before development fees announcement::Unity executives sold thousands of shares in the weeks leading up to last night's hugely controversial announcement it …

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[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The stock is down 5.5% today. It's down 6% from a week ago.

The stock is up 0.5% from a month ago, and up a whopping 32% from 6 months ago.

It's down 50% from five years ago.

What I'm getting at is that this announcement has very little movement on the stock price overall. Unless these bosses were clearing out their inventory thinking this news would kill the company, its possible these sales were normal transactions.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The financial impact of this decision is entirely speculative at this stage. Unity's next quarterly earnings report won't be impacted by it. The market is attempting to price in losses that haven't yet occurred. We won't know how it affects stock price for awhile

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 15 points 1 year ago

Yeah, an announcement like this is the shit wall street lives for. Short term gain but a long term harm is what they're all about. That's why they love layoffs as well. Doesn't matter that it screws with company morale, short term the company makes more profit!

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

The small nosedive the stock price took agrees with your assessment. It'll get an emotional reaction from some, but decisions like this are made in the interest of the shareholder, not the consumer - this is a calculated move to generate profit. They decided that the losses of people abandoning the product will be outweighed by the profits of this new revenue steam.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So it's only kind of insider trader because it's only 5%?

[–] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He may have committed some...light insider trading

Edit: inb4 people don't get the joke

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's not insider trading because this decision will make the stock price climb in the long term, and any sales would need to be significant to be worth the penalties.

Stock was $39, dropped to $36. $3 difference x 2000 shares sold is a difference of $6000, something considered a rounding error when talking about the sums of money these people have.

This sounds like someone was selling their stocks and buying their kids a house by making small sales to have minimal impacts on stock price, not insider trading.

In reality the people that know their intentions are the ones that pressed the "SELL" button

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So it's only insider trading if they get it right? But not just kind of right, like, really right.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they legit sold their stock because they believed they would lose the value of their asset in the timeframe they were planning on owning it because of their company's policy change, then yes absolutely they should be held accountable.

My argument is that this isn't insider trading, but rather the movement of money for other, legitimate, purposes. I'm not saying it looks good, but it may just be coincidental bad timing that someone wanted to, for instance, pay for a year of their daughter's tuition, or buy their son a home as a wedding present.

A clearer example of insider trading is a politician's husband buying and selling shares of companies prior to public announcements of major government policies, coincidentally the companies directly impacted by those policies which their spouse was involved in enacting.

[–] kambusha@feddit.ch 5 points 1 year ago

Doesn't matter if you win or lose, insider trading (illegal kind) is when someone with access to material non-public information, trades based on that info. I believe all publicly traded companies must have policies in place, so that any employees with access to this type of info have trading restrictions. In general, if they want to sell, they need to inform an internal compliance team, and then there may be mandatory waiting periods. For example, they may only be able to sell after 30 day waiting period.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Just finished taking Econ 101, didja?

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah no, that's not how it works.

[–] livingcoder@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago

"Normal transaction" after a fundamental change in how all games that use your product are financially responsible by novel, unmeasurable, and unrealistic metrics. No transaction prior to this kind of announcement is "normal" imo.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why would executives sell shares of their own company in any case?

I could imagine selling a handful of shares to finance a big purchase like a house, but otherwise they shouldn't ever be cashing out while they're in charge. If they think they're serving the company, they should be holding onto their shares.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

The flaw is the notion that they serve the company. This is a parasitic class which serves itself above all else.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stock buybacks, where a company buys its own stock to inflate stock prices and reward shareholders, are reeaally common practices. Obviously, shareholders have to sell stocks to cash out.