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In Europe all the GFIs and such are in the central switch box, not at the outlet. Because everything needs to be protected it's useful to have it all in a central place. The way it is incorporated can be complex, but there can be just one for the entire house. But usually there are much more, depending on how the place is wired up and how recent it is.
Can be here too, but usually isn’t. It’s just an annoying shortcut.
Originally there weren’t such breakers and you only needed a limited number of gfci’s so it was cheaper to use protected outlets. Now it’s just annoying, although there’s the convenience argument of having the reset right there at point of use
You can wire a GFCI outlet to have it protect everything after it. Pretty common in kitchen and bathroom situations where GFCI are required.
We do it both ways. New construction vs old construction basically. I never put a GFI in a breaker box tho. I assume it's just a fatter breaker.
Yeah it's usually a 2 unit wide thing, that connects to a max of 4 breakers that protect the (usually) 16A circuits. However recently it has become the norm to just integrate the breaker and the ground fault protection and those can be as thin as 1 unit. So the size of a normal breaker.
In the US you'll see circuits where the GFI is elsewhere (so one circuit is protected).
We're starting to see the GFI in the panel.