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[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"if i can't have it, nobody should have it"

also applies to everyone who opposes progress because they had it hard in life

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's a lot of people. They're a fucking problem.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well I've had to deal with them my whole life, so you should too.

[–] Comment105@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If I was in power we'd deal with them alright. Forced relocation to Bitterville, with a dictatorial mayor hell bent on fixing nothing.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I kinda get that. Its like trying to be happy for a billionaire who lives in a castle whilst you can barely afford rent.

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

this doesn't really apply to billionaires, the same people who oppose things like student debt forgiveness will also lick billionaires' boots and present them as the role models of the "american dream"

it's the bitter people who had it hard in life, and think new generations having it easier is something bad, it's unfair, even though as a civilisation we should all strive to make life easier for those who come after us. but no "if i had it bad in life, you have to go through the same, or you're not really [insert whatever group you feel like, man/woman/american/minority]", as if struggle and suffering was a right of passage

[–] moriquende@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except people having it easier due to progress comes at the cost of nobody, while billionaires having it good comes at great cost to everybody but them.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'd argue that progress always comes at a cost to something, loss of jobs, rarer to mine minerals, loss in quality to meet demand, etc. But I hear ya

[–] currycourier@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yea for sure, but the cost-benefit is usually (hopefully) pretty skewed. Like even redistributing wealth from billionaires comes at a 'cost' to the billionaires, but the downside is their bank account number is smaller (which, who cares). I know you're not disagreeing btw, just adding to the discussion.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

No no appreciate the perspective, not all bad is net bad