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Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?

I've pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it's uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said "I just got yelled at because I can't be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.") We're much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre...

I don't know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I'd like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

I'm not American.

Lemmy is much farther left than any of our national discourse.

I get that American parties are farther Right than most but the discourse here is much farther Left than almost all political discourse. Edit: I'm happy to be corrected, show me a serious party in a position of power in a Western democracy committed to ending capitalism!

[–] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not saying that if you don't want to destroy capitalism that you're not left. I'm saying that the perspective that reddit itself was "definitely left of center" is not a widely shared perspective, and if you believe that reddit of all places was left of center, then lemmy, which actually is left of center, is going to feel very left of center.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world -3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I'd strongly disagree. I think reddit is generally on the left side of most cultural and political institutions.

To each their own though.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Then honestly you must live in some radically conservative country.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Canada.

No mainstream party suggests UBI as a matter of principle for example.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Our overton window is only a few degrees to the left of the US.

Also the Ontario Liberals conducted a UBI pilot in Hamilton during the 2010s with the goal of proposing some form of it as a policy if results were positive. The OLP lost to the PCs in 2018 and Ford canned the project.

Then there's been the UBI experiment in Manitoba during the 70s.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There it is.

Your "country" is a collection of mining and timber companies in a trench coat.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Who is much more left wing than Canada?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Canada is just America but 2 election cycles behind. We're very similar politically, most of the left leaning appearance is just lip service, not policy. Look at how we continue to treat indigenous peoples.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How does Europe treat the Romani?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

I mean, that probably depends on the country, right? Tbf I don't know much about them.

The point simply is that Canada isn't especially left. We can't be, since we're joined at the hip to the USA.

[–] WhoLooksHere@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Canadian here, most of Europe. We're looking like we're expecting Trump lite this year. Not to mention Harper was, a lot.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 15 hours ago

Most of Europe is one bad economic year away from voting in Nazis (AfD and Le Pen) and the literal fascists in Italy. Not to mention Central and Eastern Europe.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I don't think that UBI is the predominant reddit viewpoint either - I think that's just the subs you're in.

I'm Canadian too, and I certainly don't consider reddit as left of center on average. It's almost like 4chan lite.

But on that note, if you're looking for Canadian instances, there are a few good ones.
The obvious one is lemmy.ca, but the other (bigger?) one is sh.itjust.works which is bilingual and I think is québécois.
Presumably a Canadian instance would have relatively Canadian political leanings, although as has been said before, instance doesn't really matter.

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago

I agree that most of Lemmy is rather cynical and very far lest