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I've been noticing a recurring sentiment among Americans - frustration and disillusionment with the economy. Despite having gone to school, earned a solid education, and worked hard, many feel they can't get ahead or even come close to the standard of living their parents enjoyed.

I'm curious - is this experience unique to the United States, or do people in other countries share similar frustrations?

Do people in Europe, Australia, Canada, or elsewhere feel like they're stuck in a rut, unable to achieve financial stability or mobility despite their best efforts?

Are there any countries or regions that seem to be doing things differently, where education and hard work can still lead to a comfortable life?

Let's hear from our international community - what's your experience with economic mobility (or lack thereof) in your country?"

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Do you have a matrix chat account? I would like to talk to you in more detail.

I have collected these thoughts discussing with a small group of friends.

To really understand long-term development, it isn't enough to just consider "pop econ", as you rightly put it. I have considered some thoughts into it that are right on the border between reality and mysticism, for lack of a better word. The reason people do things is because deep inside, they are moved by the meaningfulness of it all. That is why it makes sense to consider the world's fate on a story-telling scale.

People believed during the 1960s that economic growth was the right thing to do. As we all know (The Limits to Growth) it can't go on that way forever, in fact it has to come to a halt. That is why the economy is in turmoil, and people must have fewer children or we face a large unemployment crisis in the future.

When that exactly will be is a subject to debate, and i put 2040 because there's Renewable Energy that has to be set up, including everything that has to do with it (green steel, ...). So that takes a few (maybe 20) years to install. After that ... what comes after?

In my eyes, the unemployment crisis is bigger than the food crisis. Acres lose fertility, yes, but they retain 40% fertility in the long-term, even with all the insects dying and the mycorrhiza dissolving. Since people only use 30% of (technically) possible food-sources today, this should work out.


Somewhere around 25% less world GDP than now in 2070 from climate change destroying everything.

I don't think we'll have (and i hope we won't still have) "GDP" in 2070, honestly.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I do not have a matrix account, I only have a shitty smartphone.

I am still recovering from spending a year homless after being assaulted and held hostage in my apartment for a week... my wrist (and many other body parts) are still massively fucked up, I can only type in bursts before immense pain sets in.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ooh shit, how did that happen? was it a crazy ex? i hope you get better soon. i know how demanding these post-stress syndromes can be. (i'm struggling with something similar, but not as severe)

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 4 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Had some recently met friends of friends, and friends I'd known longer, over for a small get together.

One of the friends of friends decided not to leave.

Fucked up me and my apartment real bad, injured me so bad I lost my job, lost my phone, lost my computer, got evicted, lost all my other belongings, pent a year homeless, got my wallet stolen many times, further beat up by fentanyl addicts on the streets.

I am recovering slowly, but I have to do all my own PT, as I can barely walk, don't have a car, couldn't afford the proper PT anyway as half my disposable income is going toward paying off debt from my stolen credit cards that the credit bureaus refuse to remove from my record.

PTSD is something I now have but is the least of my concerns, Im more worried with re learning how to walk, as my torn muscles attempt to heal around my broken bones.