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Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump
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Because I'm not the sort of psycho that wants to give genocide support a mandate.
It did not. At all. At any point.
I see you dodged ~99% of my comment and a plethora of serious issues. This should be an introspective warning-sign for your own cognitive dissonance.
Please then admit that you don't care about:
Then I'll just repeat what was deflected so that it is clear now:
This made all the more obvious by Musk dumping over $70 million in ads into Pennsylvania alone, targeting both Jewish and Muslim communities with literally opposite attack messages on Harris. If that doesn't hint to the dilemma Harris was in in trying to win this election because of the fucked up Electoral College, then I don't know what to tell you except to say you are as complicit in the Ukrainian genocide as you claim Harris is with Gaza.
No, I do. It's why I voted for Harris. Despite how reprehensible I find her unwavering support for genocide.
So like I said, she was second worst on the issue of genocide. That does not make genocide support conscionable to people for whom it already was unconscionable.
We should have taken every weapon and ever filthy cent we sent to Netanyahu and instead sent it to Ukraine. And then doubled it.
Fuck your genocide.
Well, this is probably closest we'll see eye-to-eye on this so I'll leave it here. Our paths appear to diverge in terms of the political strategy in order to win against the right-wing propaganda machine and ensuring the worst genocider got in power. I don't think Harris wanted to be associated with Genocide and I don't think she holds any love for Netanyahu. But hey, I appreciate you voting for Harris and acknowledging that Trump is worse. Those two things are very important to me.
I saw no indicator of anything but mindless devotion.
Yes, the Netanyahu wing of the party got my vote.
The compliance of people to your left is more important to you than beating fascism.
lol get out.
I cared enough to defeat fascism that I didn't undermine an imperfect alternative candidate that wasn't my ideal preference in order defeat said fascism. If only more came to the same logical, ethical conclusion.
Like you said: Harris was better in every way.
Netanyahu couldn't run in a US election, so you voted for your second preference.
I did not say that.
Oh? And do tell me on which issue Trump is better or the same for you as Harris? After all, you already said Harris was better for Palestinians than Trump.
Evidently better enough to have voted for her, so that's where it counts.
She was second worst to trump. Better implies either of them rose to the level of good. Neither of them cleared horrific.
Comparative logic dictates second worst is first better.
Ok. She was the better genocide supporter. I'd ask if you were happy, but I'm not literally netanyahu, so you're not.
Haha, what's with the strawman? Where did I say I liked Bibi? He's a war criminal and the direct perpetrator of said Genocide and I would've come down hard on Harris following the election just the same to break away. He and Putin can share a jail cell at the Hague.
I am glad we cleared up and agree on the fact that Harris was better than Trump in every conceivable way, no matter how marginally.
It's after the election now and you're still carrying water for her.
Wait, is Harris president!?
Right back at you: Harris isn't even President, and you're still slinging mud at her.
This:
Does not require a win.
Yeah. I never said I would stop. She's already been floated in at least one article as a potential candidate for 2028. I don't want her being the candidate then, either.
Good lord, my dude lol. If you couldn't infer what was meant from that but simultaneously exclaim I wish you were Bibi or some bullshit strawman (and then deflecting when challenged), I'm not sure I can take you seriously anymore.
And I never said I'd stop "carrying water" for Harris relative to the larger threat; the proverbial GOP elephant in the room.
Dude, upthread you accused me of supporting genocide in Ukraine.
Welp, she lost to them. Wanna give her a chance to do it again?
I simply wanted to clarify your position on Ukraine since you initially dodged. I am comforted that you recognize Putin's attempted genocide in Ukraine and that Trump is significantly worse for Ukrainian lives.
If you're asking me whether I'd prefer her to be the Democratic nominee, no. If you're asking me whether I'd vote for her again over a Trump re-run or some other fascist Republican like Vance, then yes, absolutely.
And here's where you confirm that you've been engaging in bad faith the entire time. Goodbye.
Confirmed how?
I said goodbye.
Alrighty then, goodbye.