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California cannot ban gun owners from having detachable magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, a federal judge ruled Friday.

The decision from U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez won’t take effect immediately. California Attorney General Rob Bonta, a Democrat, has already filed a notice to appeal the ruling. The ban is likely to remain in effect while the case is still pending.

This is the second time Benitez has struck down California’s law banning certain types of magazines. The first time he struck it down — way back in 2017 — an appeals court ended up reversing his decision.

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[–] blazera@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Why dont they just let those people get murdered?

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A smaller mag ain’t fixing a single damn problem, pass something that actually matters like proper gun control and licensing

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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Well they could try addressing systemic poverty, housing, and the mental health and addiction crises instead.

No?

Not going to do that either, huh?

[–] blazera@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No country on earth doesnt have mental health problems, homeless people arent doing any mass shootings, nor are any drugs causing people to mass murder. The US isnt unique in these metrics. Its very unique in gun availability.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The vast majority of "mass shootings" are gang violence.

And it isn't unique in gun availability.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The typical American excess is the unique facet, not a large portion of the population being armed.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno what else to tell you if you cant read numbers

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or I know more about the topic than you do, like the percentage of the population with a registered firearm compared to how many guns those owners have on average.

Unless you think mass shooters are quad wielding.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And none of that changes how many guns we have available.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you think mass shooters only do it because they find a gun lying unattended and say "might as well kill some people" or...

[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the first step is always that they find a gun. Sometimes bought for it specifically, sometimes they already had it and its waitin there for them to have a bad day. A guy in japan finds out his fiance is having an affair, hes gonna have a much harder time getting to a gun as outlet for short term anger.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of all the formerly fascist states that have a millennia long tradition of beating their peasants into the ground until they don't even realize they should be rebellious, you picked the one where a dude assassinated a far right, genocide denying, exploitation cult-supporting ex-PM with a homemade shotgun.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

"Oh yeah, they had one gun death, so checkmate"

Theyve got basically the lowest homicide rate in the world. Ill pick them as my ideal for gun control results any day of the week.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 year ago

The fuck is your idea about other countries?

What, you think we don't have excess anywhere else?

No, it is just that the US is a shithole where you are required to own a gun to feel safe in your own home.

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[–] bobman@unilem.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

Why don't they tackle the issue at the root: people who feel like they have nothing to live for, so they take their frustration out on society.

Oh wait, that involves reducing the disparity in wealth. I guess we know why the ruling class is making us squabble over gun laws, then.

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[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 1 year ago (13 children)

If you think restricted magazines will change that at all, you're sorely mistaken. Especially when you can just 3D print a magazine.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are absurdly more guns than 3D printer users. Even when there is overlap, any kind of mechanical application is a big problem for 3D prints, with clearances and dimensions being a bit off, as well as being less durable. Shits pretty likely to just jam up.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're talking magazines, not full guns. Magazines are very simple, mechanically. And a properly calibrated 3D printer has very tight tolerances.

Plus, you can buy a 3D printer for like $100 that does well enough to make one.

[–] blazera@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And a properly calibrated 3D printer has very tight tolerances

Mmm no they dont. Resin print maybe, but thats just gonna shatter.

[–] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have no idea why you think a resin printed magazine would shatter.

Do you know what a magazine is?

Also, I own a cheap 3D printer that would have absolutely no trouble printing a magazine

[–] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cus ive done a lot of resin printing. Its a pretty brittle material not used for making parts for anything. Hell even a resin printed scope would probably shatter just from recoil.

I think your printed magazine would jam

Non-brittle resin exists and isn't any more expensive.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s a box with a spring inside. There is nothing complicated or difficult to manufacture about it.

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