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[–] Suru@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are sports where women have reached or surpassed men's records, for example long-distance endurance races or some accuracy-based competitions. Anything where raw explosive strength or size isn't the main deciding factor. There are examples in history where women have been banned from participating in specific sports because they have been able to win in competition with men.

I think, for the leagues you listed, size, strength and speed are often key, and as such most men have an advantage over most women. I don't doubt there could be exceptions to that rule.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have asked people like this multiple times if the best WNBA player is better than the worst NBA player, and they usually say yes without having any possible way to know that.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you could ask me instead of assume. I would respond I have no idea about that specifically because I don't like basketball and don't pay attention to it at all. However, I do watch the NHL and the PWHL. Do I think the worst NHL player is better than the best PWHL player? Yes. I don't even think the PWHL is at the AHL level of play. Just watching the speed of the plays, the structure of the plays, they're not close. The PWHL play is more like men's collegiate play. So, if you're asking me if I would rather draft someone at that play level that is in their prime playing at their peak, or someone that is playing at that level who is a young player with room to grow, it's an obvious choice.

Here's the other part of that. The PWHL is an incredibly young league only 2 years old and with only 6 teams. It takes time, generations even, to develop the interest and the infrastructure to support young women/girls in hockey (or anything). You don't wave a magic wand and suddenly have a vast pool of women that can play at that level. Do I think that league will mature and get younger women interested in playing more and fostering even better future talent? I really hope so, I would love to see it. At that point, will my answer change? It's very possible. Circling back to your WNBA question. The WNBA is a much more mature league, 28 years old with 15 teams. We're probably just now seeing the true "fruits of the labor" of that league. I'm just entirely unqualified to make that kind of judgment because I have zero interest in that sport. But even I know of Caitlin Clark, and that speaks volumes.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Assume what? I wasn't even talking to you.

Or is this a "I forgot which sockpuppet I was using" situation?

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have asked people like this multiple times

Very clearly referring to me as the person... I guess you wanted to keep it a strawman instead of actually asking what I thought.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Turn your ego down about a billion notches. I have no idea who the fuck you are.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, you're back peddling again. If you weren't referring to the current conversation, what was the point of commenting at all?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I said that eleven hours ago.

Dear god.

Do you think I predicted our conversation in the past? Do I have amazing psychic powers?

I never even asked you that question, for fuck's sake.