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An Alabama inmate would be the test subject for the “experimental” execution method of nitrogen hypoxia, his lawyers argued, as they asked judges to deny the state’s request to carry out his death sentence using the new method.

In a Friday court filing, attorneys for Kenneth Eugene Smith asked the Alabama Supreme Court to reject the state attorney general’s request to set an execution date for Smith using the proposed new execution method. Nitrogen gas is authorized as an execution method in three states but it has never been used to put an inmate to death.

Smith’s attorneys argued the state has disclosed little information about how nitrogen executions would work, releasing only a redacted copy of the proposed protocol.

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[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But the US justice system has proven time and again that it is not to be trusted with killing prisoners.

We have literally thousands of examples of innocent people being killed due to faults in our justice system; how many innocent people are acceptable to kill to keep this failure of an institution standing?

Life in prison is both less expensive and leaves the situation open to remuneration in the case of wrongful conviction.

[–] deft@ttrpg.network -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't disagree but does feel like a moment to point out America's war crimes and what we've done to the world. This isn't a wrongful killing and this isn't generations of cancer and trauma and ruined societies because of our country.

This particular person right here is guilty though and in this one instance, fuck him. Fuck this guy. He is not part of our society, he's not our friend or an ally or even deserving of humanity we treat one another with for how he treated one of us. It is decided he will experience the first version of this method of removal. He has no right to decide how, that is forfeit for him and allowing him to have that is injustice to the people he's harmed.

And homie above saying fuck it shoot him was bad taste but jeez it is a tasteless comment at best.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I won't lose sleep over a real murderer being killed.

My issue is the systemic failure of our justice system, not a guilty individual losing their life. So I'll ask again: how many innocent people is it worth sacrificing to get the ones who really have it coming, and why?

We know that innocent people will be killed via capital punishment. Why is the institution worth keeping when life in prison is cheaper and allows for remuneration when the justice system inevitably gets one wrong?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Well, it's not like we should treat 20 years in prison less lightly. And we certainly do.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

Because unironically, shooting him in the head would be infinitely cheaper, infinitely quicker, and infinitely more fun for the executioner than any other method save for hanging (except for the quicker part).

It's also painless, the most expensive cost would be hiring someone to clean up afterwards.

Something else you have to keep in mind with people like this, we do not ask to be born into society, or as humans. Most of us enjoy who we are and love being a part of society for the most part, but killers often time do not feel human, they feel like it is the world and themselves, separate not the same. Whatever the case may be that causes this, including a condition or mental illness.

Yes, what has to be done must be done, but you should understand that it is not something that is done or should be done out of some kind of revenge hate fetish, it is something that is done to remove those people from our society because they are unfortunately too dangerous to be left alive, too dangerous to live even in a standard prison.

Once you start adding hate, anger, revenge, etc to the mix, you might as well just start throwing the zyklon b and burn pits in too, because that's what a society that kills with hatred does. Unless that person has specifically done something to you, your family, or your friends, you should harbor no hatred for them, only sympathy.