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[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 days ago (3 children)

That small red bulb counteracts the entropy argument because you bring energy (and quite a lot of I recall) into the system.

Would be a sad day if we no longer could reduce entropy locally under the invest of energy.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 31 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Would be a sad day if we no longer could reduce entropy locally under the invest of energy.

I don't think there'd be anyone left alive to be sad in that case...

[–] neatobuilds@lemmy.today 14 points 5 days ago
[–] FarceOfWill@infosec.pub 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The wider issue is you have to generate that energy, and you have to be able to capture more carbon than that generation released.

As I understand it doesn't at all. This is why it's seen as analagous to a perpetual motion machine, it's an endless chain of power plants capturing each others carbon to no end.

You could use solar of course, but then why generate anything with fossil fuels just to capture the carbon with solar? Just use solar.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 5 days ago

Because we still need to bring CO2 levels down even if we stop burning fossil fuel.

And then we'll probably need to burn fossil fuel to keep them at the right level, since we are in a capitalistic society and we're never going to be able to shutdown the CO2 collectors if they are ever built.

[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What I mean by entropy is that we burn fossil fuels (low entropy) and release CO2 into the atmosphere (high entropy), so it takes a lot more energy and effort to remove CO2 than simply not burning fossil fuels.

Clearly laws of physics work against us when we try to remove a relatively low concentration gas from a planet-wide system.

[–] A_A@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Next time you write a scientific publication, /s, make sure to have it reviewed by at least 2 Nobel Prize ! 😋
(thanks for the explanation ... it was not clear at all)