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[–] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (67 children)

Transphobic main dev ruined the project for me

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

Here we fucking go again.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago

Don't be a dick. The dev is not transphobic, and you know it.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like a confused Swedish dude that when questioned about his use of English pronouns defaults to not wanting to get political. Is there more besides a misguided decision to avoid relevant political topics?

I think we should chastise people that insist on not getting political, but not necessarily boycott everything they do. Or at least we should apply the same moral demands to Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft or Google when choosing which browsers to support. Which of them is the least bad?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There is nothing political about acknowledging peoples' existence.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 19 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Existence? Because somebody used a wrong pronoun?

[–] ech@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They refused to use the right pronoun. One is a mistake. The other is a choice.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They refused to accept a PR from a random person with just one single word change for a string that only the developer himself is seeing.

I think the developer has all the rights not to accept such a PR which adds nothing to the program. And I think people that really care about gender inclusivity should stop focusing on this useless nitpicks, which makes inclusivity appear like made up by a bunch of trolls.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

It's pretty telling to focus on the dev's right to reject inclusivity while simultaneously rejecting and deriding everyone else's right to judge them for that.

And if it was such a useless change, why didn't the dev reject it for that instead of saying it was "political"? He's the one that declared the word itself, not the utility of the change, was the problem. Calling everyone else "trolls" for pointing that out is just disingenuous.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You're right, words are meaningless and language has no bearing on society at large. after all, fuiebt eidiowb rhe efifo quifopim.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The hyperbole here is insane. My trans friend’s Japanese parents are supportive of him, but they have some trouble with pronouns. If you’re not a native English speaker and learned the standard pronouns, then I think it’s just naturally too confusing. Pretty much all of them are translating in their minds in real-time.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's a big difference between negating the existence of people and what happend in this case, i.e. somebody writing a comment (only visible to him and other developers) using the male form.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Disclaimer: I'm not a software engineer or anything, and while I can usually figure out how to install something from git, that's as far as my understanding of the platform goes..

Was it an unnecessary edit? Sure, maybe. Hell, could have just been someone trying to get a reaction (mission accomplished). That does not mean that the edit was incorrect in any way (gramatically, syntax-wise, etc.) or political. It's just someone being annoying.

But it's only political, if you agree that trans people should not exist (or I guess just that you are woefully ignorant on the subject of gender).

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t think we should be scared of the word “political” or “ideology”.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that too... Everything is political if you want to really get into it. People just want to be able to ignore it until it directly affects them.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

Indeed. It’s a privilege to be able to stay inside your little circle and say “we don’t do politics” or “ no ideology here”.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Again this shit. This have been debunked many times, yet people still write this nonsense.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

Transphobic main dev […]

Do you have a source?

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

ugh transphobia rots people's brains

it's not too hard to just be a decent person ppl

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[–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I see zero reason to out the "transphobic" label on the dev.

Think and read before labelling people.

[–] EasternLettuce@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Calling pronouns political is a straight up dog whistle

there may also be the possibility of the dev simply not wanting to define his views publicly out of the blue, because regardless of stance, you will make enemies, potentially hindering the projects development or facing personal repercussions.

It should be allowed for someone to not out themselves as either transphobic or an ally. If the person does have issues with pronouns, it's better if they simply keep to themselves instead of loudly proclaiming it. The other way around it's the same - even if someone is pro trans, it might not be suitable for them to openly speak about it - it might even put them in danger.

I agree with you that this is often a dog whistle, but it might also be a poor choice of wording.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Totally excessive in view of the facts.

There are so few alternative browsers and the collapse of the privacy is so global. That seems to me a minor point in relation to the goal.

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