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California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a new law on Wednesday that aims to stop other states from prosecuting doctors and pharmacists who mail abortion pills to patients in places where the procedure is banned.

California already has a law protecting doctors who provide abortions from out-of-state judgements. But that law was designed to protect doctors who treat patients from other states who travel to California.

The new law goes further by forbidding authorities from cooperating with out-of-state investigations into doctors who mail abortion pills to patients in other states. It also bans bounty hunters or bail agents from apprehending doctors, pharmacists and patients in California and transporting them to another state to stand trial for providing an abortion.

Other states, including New York and Massachusetts, have similar laws. But California’s law also bars state-based social media companies — like Facebook — from complying with out-of-state subpoenas, warrants or other requests for records to discover the identity of patients seeking abortion pills.

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[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's probably fine, as I understand it. The law only concerns what parties under state jurisdiction may do. Federal authorities, which would be involved in an inter-state arrest like this, would not be affected.

It's similar to sanctuary city laws, which simply state that city and state officials from cooperating with federal immigration authorities. They don't make it illegal for those workers to operate; they simply make those officials do all the work themselves.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You see, sanctuary cities works because thats for human bodies not pills. This is why Texas is allowed to ship undocumented people to different states without reprecussion. However, protecting people for illegal actions done in other states is not OK. If its illegal to take the medication in Utah after 18 weeks, California needs to respect that.

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, California doesn't. This line of thinking allowed and tried to enforce slavery.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

As i have said in another comment, the wau I understand it is laws pertaining to housing bodies is not the same as laws of actions. Much like how owning a slave is one form of illegal and human trafficing is another. Even though they might mean the same thing, they are treated differently.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fundamental point is that it is not the responsibility of California to enforce the laws of Utah. If Utah wants enforcement, they can do it themselves through the appropriate channels, namely federal law enforcement and by dealing with people who actually fall under its jurisdiction, which California doctors do not.

[–] PatFussy@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I just think those doctors might get hit with a federal crime to go around state laws. Its like saying its ok for a company to sell interstate without taxes as long as the state doesnt find out wink wink

Edit: also, it is a crime to break the law in another state. A california judge would need to abide by laws made in another. If you get caught speeding in Nevada you would still be able to see a judge about it in New York.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

A judge in New York would not see you about anything that isn't a crime not committed in new York. Crimes have to be tried in the state where they took place. Law enforcement from different states may work together to bring you to that state where the crime happened but if the law enforcement in the state you are in doesn't recognize the laws from that state then they can't basically go fuck themselves and as long as you stay outta that state you're good to go