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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 46 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

And then yell at them in comment sections when the democrats lose to fascists again.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you don't vote for them... They will lose...

They're not a hockey team where it doesn't matter if you participate as a fan or not. If they don't get votes then they don't get political power.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing?

Are you fucking joking?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m frustrated. Democrats win and don’t get anything done because of republicans and then lose and don’t bother resisting the republicans.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I’m frustrated.

Of course you are. As am I. But that doesn't mean I'm willing to just "give up." Yes I'll vote against Trump at all chance even if it means I'll lose. Because I may not.

I don't want a leader who is fucking exciting or a firebrand. I just want a competent administrator who treats the nation as something to be preserved. And that's a hard sell against a cheap auto-salesman like Trump.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

But those are the only two options. So you pick a democrat and hope for the best.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

If the democrats are the best we can hope for then we are well and truly boned.

And how much longer am I gonna have to hold my nose and vote for an asshole I hate before they get enough power to mean I don’t have to?

Will I be dead before I can actually vote for someone I want to be in office? And even then will they have a stroke and start schlonging conservative dick?

Politics is a game designed to be so infuriating that most people rage quit.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is why MAGA is winning. Even they aren't this stupid.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve been doing the “smart thing” and voting blue in every election and writing y representatives and it clearly hasn’t worked.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

So obviously the solution is to stop.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It clearly isn’t helping, so why not save myself the ulcer?

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You're saying this in a thread about a Democrat who won. What is the difference of Chuck Schumer was there or not? It seems to be the same result either way.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Do you know how Congress works? I'm trying to determine if I have to explain what a "majority" means or not.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yes here we go another comment about if they don't have a complete and total majority that they have no power whatsoever. What fucking bunk. He was elected as a senator by the people of the state of New York. He has a solemn and sacred duty to serve those people. It doesn't matter if other people didn't win election it's still his fucking job. If he can't fucking do it he should resign as should the rest of the useless parasites in that party who don't feel they have any responsibilities left to the public.

What a useless party this is and what useless people who are loyal to it.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 hours ago

You kids act like there's some sort of consolation prize. Is it because you all got participation trophies or something when you were children? You lost the house, the senate, the presidency and the f'gin SCOTUS.

What political power do you think you really have anymore? Whining on lemmy about how you don't want to vote for a boring candidate? No wonder MAGA is winning. They f'ing vote.

[–] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The complete destruction of civil rights, a stable state, trade relations, diplomatic relations, the integrity of elections, the actual health if the nation, so on and so on.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

The complete destruction of civil rights

We lost Roe under Biden's watch

a stable state

The Memphis police department got COVID money from Congress that went into the pockets of the officers who beat Tyre Nichols to death on Biden's watch

diplomatic relations

We torched whatever credibility we had left on human rights issues by arming Israel while they carried out a genocide when Biden was president

the integrity of elections

Republican led states passed tons of voter suppression laws while Biden was in the White House

the actual health if the nation

See my comment about the destruction of civil rights

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Which has all happened despite me voting for them for the last 25 years

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago
[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world -3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Them winning makes it harder for the Chuck Schumer's of the world to come up with excuses for caving to Republicans. Simply electing anyone with a (D) behind their name isn't sufficient, but it is a necessary step one of unfucking the country.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Counterpoint: John Fetterman

Counterpoint: Kirsten Sinema

Counterpoint: Joe Manchin

Counterpoint: Joe Lieberman

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, fair, but those are all step 2 problems. Like, Fetterman has been infuriatingly awful, but Dr. Oz would have been at least as bad.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We never get to step 2 because like clockwork they lose seats every couple years and we need those assholes just to keep a slim majority.

It’s been this way my entire life. Step 2 will never come.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It’s been this way my entire life

Same. FWIW, I felt totally alone when I was complaining about this stuff decades ago, now even the most moderate people I know will say things about Republicans that I wouldn't repeat on public forums.

Step 2 will never come.

Honestly, I don't know if you're right or not, but I do know that they will make it feel impossible right up until it actually happens, and I just don't think there's any better way forward than this (admittedly difficult) one

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

There’s no “they” doing it. It’s a fact of the structure of the government and 250 years of cruft. We can’t not vote for the democrats, no matter how bad they are, which means they don’t need to care what we think.

[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Who are the facists in this context? Shubert or the guys he’s voting with? Asking as im not based in us

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks. Im not very good with names

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 10 hours ago

Schumer is a Democrat so based on the context they're referring to the Republican fascists

[–] Lucky13@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

You should have voted blue because this time it would have worked for sure!