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Why can’t any government in the world aim to tax ultra rich more whilst making easier for small to medium large businesses to thrive. And policies on property supply rather than property buyers like all sorts of first time buyers programs.

Why are only same old policies keep being peddled when the world is still going to shit?

That doesn’t involve reducing the government size and budget entirely or subscribing to any extreme left or right?

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[–] Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There are plenty of governments that do that. Cuba, China, Vietnam, Korea, the late Soviet Union.

While Stalinist ultraleft economic policies were not so generous to small businesses, the new Chinese model (which has been adopted by most Socialist states, bar Korea, which hews still to the failed Stalinist model) focuses on nationalization of heavy industry (steel, aggregate, resource extraction, refinery) while allowing consumer goods and small-scale retail to remain in the hands of business owners.

The reason this doesn't happen in the West or its neocolonies is that it hampers the wealth and resource extraction of the international finance capital class.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Reading another comment. China doesnt tax the ultra rich, like the Post was asking for.

I also wonder if its a good solution to do. But reading that comment, reveals that taxing the ultra rich wont make the problem go away.

In Germany we have a party called "Die Linke" which wants to tax the ultra rich. But slowly I feel like thats a stupid idea when looking how China works.

[–] pcalau12i@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

China does tax the rich but they also have an additional system of "voluntary donations." For example, Tencent "volunteered" to give up an amount that is about 3/4th worth of its yearly profits to social programs.

I say "voluntary" because it's obviously not very voluntary. China's government has a party cell inside of Tencent as well as a "golden share" that allows it to act as a major shareholder. It basically has control over the company. These "donations" also go directly to government programs like poverty alleviation and not to a private charity group.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago

For clarity, China does tax the ultra-rich, they just don't try to solve the conditions that give rise to wealth inequality through taxation alone like the Nordic Countries do, but through vast and rapid development of the productive forces. The former method, if exclusively focused on, can end up lengthening the process, whereas it is through development of the productive forces that the conditions that give rise to wealth inequality can be truly ended for good.

Essentially, if 1 hour of labor in China can produce more on average than 1 hour of labor in, say, the US, then it becomes easier to fulfill the needs of all, while simultaneously preparing the ground for increasing the ratio of production in the public sector (which works best with large, massive firms, rather than smaller firms, which work best with markets). This is why Marx says markets erase their own foundations as they develop.