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[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Euro perspective - When I hear fiscally conservative, that means supporting a governmental policy that is frugal with spending and responsible with public assets and finances.

This has several parts, here are some of the most important:

a) Keeping a balanced budget - the government should not be spending more than it is collecting from taxes and income. (A little debt in dire times is fine, but that should be payed off when possible)

b) Responsible management and long term planning - the planning horizon should be counted in decades

c) Focusing on core tasks: national security, infrastructure, healthcare, education etc.

d) Not raising taxes unless strictly necessary, lowering them if it is permissible according to the above.

Socially liberal => supports personal liberties

Now why does government debt even matter? Well, because debt is owed somewhere, and if it becomes large may mean that the government is beholden to other parties for the debt.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What party runs on the platform of fiscal irresponsibility?

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Usually fiscal irresponsibility comes in the form of lavish promises (subsidies, tax cuts, projects etc.) with a jarring absence of an answer to the question "How are we going to finance this?"

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

Right, the entire phrase, at least in the US, is intended to short circuit the broader conversion about roles and mechanisms of government. It's begging the question. What US conservatives call "fiscal responsibility" typically just means "I don't think the government should spend money on things which don't personally benefit me." Or even "I want other people's children to pay for my entitlements."

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Right, but (at least in the US) those politicians will turn around and tell voters that they're fiscally conservative. And they will believe it.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Well, that's just called lying - US politicians haven't been fiscally conservative in a long time.

Compared to Sweden

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago

Yes, they lie about it and their base eats it up.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not raising taxes unless strictly necessary, lowering them if it is permissible according to the above.

The tax rate is never the issue. If the gov can push through a responsible plan for spending our consolidated resources so it costs less than we'd need to pay separately, then it's a win. Fuckwit conservatives talk a about reducing taxes and conveniently omit how they'll reduce costs to match. Hint: Here, it's always food inspectors and anti-corruption.

[–] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago

The tax rate is never the issue.

Maybe not where you live, but here (Sweden) where the average worker pays ~60% tax on their earned income the perspective is a bit different :)

Right now certainly isn't a time to be cutting taxes, but when the gov:t ends up... checks notes... spending 74mSEK on modern art for a rail link that had already overran its budget by 30% - it gets a bit jarring. Meanwhile hospitals across the country are in full cost cutting mode due to the ongoing recession and inflation.