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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Most (70%+) Iranians would welcome the U.S. getting rid of the Mullahs, freeing them.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They wouldn't like who the US parachutes in his place tho.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Potentially. Especially with all their oil.

But still, I think that still would be preferable to them, the lesser of the two evils.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, the Shah was pretty bad. But I guess he wasn't policing fashion?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don’t know, the Shah was pretty bad. But I guess he wasn’t policing fashion?

I heard the story once from an Iranian, about the difference between the Shah and the Mullahs.

If kids at school were talking about how their parents hated the political leader, and the leader was the Shah, then that evening some plain clothed people would show up to their front door to beat up the parents.

But if the leader was the Mullahs, then the plain clothed people would show up at their front door to shoot/kill the parents.

So Iranians see a difference between the two.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They could finally live in peace and they could reintroduce the slave market in Iran like they did for Libya.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

the US could reintroduce the slave market in Iran

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You should really look up the amazing freedom US brought to Libya by killing Gadaffi.

If you wonder why Iranians are poor it is mostly because America is doing everything it can to cripple the Iranian economy and starve them.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Its not a matter of knowing the history or not (I do), its a matter of using extreme dumb hyperbole ('slave market') in trying to make a point. Its bad conversation.

And it happen way too often here on Lemmy.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You need to make the connection that this is U.S. Government-sanctioned slavery.

Slavery existed in Africa for hundreds of years (unfortunately).

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

This was not a practice under Gadaffi.

[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. The Iranians had a front row seat on what happened when the Americans 'freed' the Iraqis.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, no. The Iranians had a front row seat on what happened when the Americans ‘freed’ the Iraqis.

I spoke to a younger Iranian once who ran an electronic store in Tehran about the very same thing.

I asked him if they wanted (at that time) G.W. Bush to come in and free them, Iraq style. He took a moment to think, then said, before the Iraqi invasion, yes definitely. After, the invasion, not so much. But also, that he definitely hated the Mullahs.

If you ask older Iranians, they all overwhelmingly want that to happen. So might just be an age divide thing.

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[–] NimdaQA@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Exactly, they might not like the current regime but they also don’t want America to step into Iran.

They don’t want to become an Iraq or an Afghanistan.

Even the old folk would start to resent the Americans once they start seeing their homes blown to pieces.

The mess an American invasion of Iran would make would just play into Iranian propaganda.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Though they do worry about what you've mentioned, most Iranians I've talked to currently are "willing to risk it", as they are sick and tired of the Mullahs at this point.

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