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That's... A theory, pretty sure it's more that meat just tastes good though
Yes - it is that way for normal people. Notice the amount of qualifiers in my original statement.
There is a disturbing undercurrent to some people’s understanding of meat - to the point where people like Jordan Peterson (others too) have made themselves sick on “carnivore” diets.
I am talking about the kind of people mentioned in the OP that are upset that fake meat options exist. Part of the reason these people are upset - because any rational meat eater would be like cool, more food options - is that they view synthetic meats or even people choosing not to eat meat as an attack on their personal identity, which for these individuals is constructed around this weird patriarchal nationalist thing.
When I get a honey butter chicken biscuit from Whata, I’m doing it because I’m hungry and those things taste like crack. For some men, eating meat is something they have this complex about - you eat a steak because you aren’t a weak little soy boy.
You nailed it. I love a steak as much as the next dude but you put a piece of synthetic meat in front of me that looks and tastes near enough - I’d be happy to compromise to cut out the killing.
I hope to never meat the kind of people that you're talking about. That's pretty weird
It’s a strange phenomenon.
When I was vegetarian as a teenager, my mother would do things like secretly cook my fake bacon in bacon fat and then reveal the trick afterwards - “oh that tasted better than usually didn’t it?” The TTI facility I was at for a bit would only provide me with just plates of unseasoned canned vegetables, and then crow about how I didn’t care that much about being veg because I wouldn’t eat just a straight bowl of peas.
I think some of it is a weird discomfort/projection thing, because many meat eaters haven’t really seriously engaged with the ethics of eating meat and the existence of other people who have can be seen as a threat. Again - not all people who eat meat - but I think in a world where we are very abstracted from that process of killing the animal the existence of vegans/vegetarians and their food forces some folks to confront their own cognitive dissonance on the matter.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Sounds awful
Sounds like you've unfortunately run into a lot of unkind people in general.
I suppose if I really think about it, I have faced some weird toxic masculinity when I've order salmon or chicken caesar salad instead of steak but mostly with older people. Similar to getting a drink with an umbrella in it instead of a pint of ale.
If you start to look a lot of the advertising is highly masculinized. Meat is definitely masculine in Western culture.