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[–] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Remind me again why did you US people elected this guy?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I didn't. You're asking the wrong crowd.

[–] MeisterLemmpe@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Americans voted for him. The world doesn't care who did and who didn't...

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, but you're asking a cross segment largely made up of people who didn't vote for him, so we can't answer your question. Best we can do is to say that apparently a giant contingent of our society is made up of people who are stupid, cruel, racist, and/or easily manipulated.

[–] MeisterLemmpe@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

As someone who is in constant opposition to his goverment (and their voters), I can see that

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Then the world needs to wake up. What's happening in America is the class war, just like everywhere else. The American people, the cult members, and the rest, are victims

[–] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A long time ago, republicans needed an easy way to get voters to vote against their own interests and instead vote in the interest of the corporate overclass. Abortion. It’s genius. Make the preachers ultra wealthy by getting them to preach about something the Bible never seemed concerned about. Abortion. They’re murdering babies, you just have to get out and vote.

Eventually that strategy brought diminishing returns. They overturned Roe and the issue doesn’t have the same bite that it once had. They needed a new plan. Wait, I’ve got it. Trans people existing. Trans people bad, and they’re trying to assimilate your children by existing. They’re trans animals now, pooping in litter boxes at school. How long until you have to refer to your children by neopronouns under the threat of incarceration?

Seriously. This is how trump won the election. This issue is the issue they chose and it works. I hear it from my rightoid coworkers all the time. The GOP creates boogeymen to get idiots to the polls and it works, and the democrats have nothing to counter it.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Oh, come on now. It wasn't just all about trans people. You're forgetting the real threats.

Are you not forgetting the threat of tens of thousands of dog-eating Hatians in Springfield, Ohio? Notice how you haven't heard a peep about dog-eating Hatians in Springfield, Ohio any more, because God-King Trump solved the problem of dog-eating Hatians!

And we had another problem about having a really, really old white guy with cognitive issues sitting in the Oval Office. Democrats tried replacing the old white guy with a <gasp!> black woman and the country collectively stood up and said "No, not like that!", and lost their collective minds. So of course we did the sensible thing and went back to electing an old white guy with cognitive issues, and everybody lived happily ever after and nothing went wrong.

Then of course there was the Israel conflict, where everybody was upset over Biden's support for Israel and the ongoing genocide in Gaza. So of course, the only sensible solution to that was to elect someone who promised to genocide harder, annex the territory, and turn it into beachfront property for the rich.

And all of this, of course, was meant to bring down the price of eggs. My understanding is that Trump had a meeting with the National Institute of Chickens the other day, and they are the ones who persuaded Trump to impose a 29% tax on uninhabited Antarctic islands out of fear of having to compete with Antarctic penguin eggs.

As a result of Trump, we've restored the dignity of the Presidency by making sure the status-quo is maintained, eliminated the threat of dog-eating Hatians, brought peace in the Middle East by letting Israel just steamroll over everything, and now have a President who is taking it to the front lines on the war on eggs! What more could we possibly ask for? ^^

[–] fake_meows@lemm.ee 1 points 14 hours ago

Are you not forgetting the threat of tens of thousands of dog-eating Hatians in Springfield, Ohio?

In 2016 they ran the "be afraid of Shari'ah Law taking over the USA" program. ...so many hoax memes...

[–] PointyReality@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Also the failing economy, you know the economy that the tarriffs would make great again. The same tarriffs that as of today has wiped quite a lot off the stock market. The same tarriffs everyone else said would hurt the economy.

Also I might add the non-voters that did not vote for Kamala because they did not find her compelling enough. Whilst the alternative was authoritarian, racist and mysognistic.

So its really a group effort by republicans and well…. others…. Not sure if those other idiots are left leaning or right leaning tbh but idiots they are all nonetheless.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 35 points 1 day ago

Don't assume I voted for the prick. Ask the 70+ million idiots who did. You'll find them in conservative instances. Go on. Go ask them.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Dozens of Bomb threats suppressed the election day turnout in Blue areas of swing states.

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As far as I can tell, it boils down to some combination of three reasons: they're bigots; they're stupid; or they're selfish. Bigotry is self-explanatory. If they actually believed that he would do good things and help the country, then they're clearly stupid. If they didn't care how his actions hurt others but thought they'd help them financially, then they're selfish. Now, if they're selfish and not wealthy (wealthy being not like two houses and a couple millions in savings but rather own a couple yachts and an island) then they're also stupid on top of being selfish.

The United States has a good deal of cultural rot. As a culture, we're sick and have been for decades (and that's not even getting into the nation's original sin of slavery/racism). Carter rightly pointed it out in his "malaise speech." A large number of Americans are simply incapable of thinking about others outside themselves. We are incapable of taking on large projects for the collective good. And because of that, we defunded education for decades leading to the stupid, selfish population of today.

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Reminder of how selfish people are: the pandemic. People couldn't fathom why they were expected to take precautions to avoid spreading it to other people

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The worst part is that if you're selfish, you'd think Biden would be better. I miss that 30% increase in my stock portfolio vs the 25% decrease for no reason.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the better question is why a third of Americans didn’t bother to vote against this.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Voter suppresssion was a significant tie breaker. Also keep in mind that a lot of people get shafted by both parties and have given up.

I don't blame them.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also keep in mind that a lot of people get shafted by both parties and have given up.

I don't blame them.

I don't blame them for feeling shafted, but they do share the responsibility for the current state of things.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

A very significant portion of those who didnt vote were just people that couldn't be bothered. And another significant portion were those who just abstained because Harris wasn't tough enough on Isreal, and I'm sure those people are happy with that decision now. Palestine will be free any day now, surely. Yes there is a lot of voter suppression, but things were way too close with a lot of people not voting to claim that that made all the difference. They weren't ALL disenfranchised. Plenty just made a choice not to vote.

So... I do blame them.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

centrists support genocide and then blame everyone but themselves when genocide support isn't a winning issue outside of their wing of the party.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd have much rather had someone who was actually progressive, or at minimum, not supportive of Isreal's genocide. But that wasn't an option, was it? Harris and Biden's positions on Isreal were bullshit. But so was Trumps. At best they were a wash on that subject. And Trump was objectively worse in every other regard.

People that do not live in reality, that do not understand that under our system you often have to vote for the lesser of two evils to save yourself from the greater of them, are children that need to grow the fuck up.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

I voted for harris. You don't have to convince me. Also, the election is over and you don't have to carry water for her anymore.

Just because centrists got their only wish and we didn't have a choice to vote against genocide, that doesn't mean we don't get to gripe about it.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

things were way too close to claim that that made all the difference.

Votes being close is why voter suppression and not voting for Harris because she wasn't good enough to use as a vote against Trump had such a big impact.

But in any democracy there will be a significant portion of voters who either aren't engaged or are unwilling to stand with the available options. You can blame them, but you should really be blaming the Trump voters.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can blame them

I do.

but you should really be blaming the Trump voters.

I do.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Voter suppresssion was a significant tie breaker. Also keep in mind that a lot of people get shafted by both parties and have given up.

I don’t blame them.

To be honest, I would be more inclined to accept this if literally every state in the country hadn't shifted rightward, including deep blue states that not only didn't engage in voter suppression but also aimed to expand voting rights.

California of all states stared looking competitive. There was no voter suppression going on there.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you don't accept that voter suppression is an overall issue in other states because California is expanding voter access?

ok

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

50 out of 50 states shifted to the right for one reason or another. Voter suppression has nothing to do with that.

You can either blame the voter suppression boogeyman or you can try to figure out why even deep blue states with no voter suppression started shifting rightward. Whatever makes you feel better.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It is a combination of things, voter suppression being one of them and a common tie breaker in battleground states.

When there is a shift, voter suppression is a common denominator on flipping close states. I'm just talking about one part of the overall issue, not saying it is the entire issue.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 20 hours ago

Since California was your chosen state to target:

Trump got less votes this time than before, the Dems lost way more, and still beat him by a pretty decent margin

What this tells you should be pretty fuckin obvious, because it's been said loudly since before the election: the Dems ran a dog shit campaign that even their usual supporters hated. Courting the Cheney's was a mistake

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago

I voted against him.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Because he has a penis, and his opponent didn't.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, he's white underneath that orange makeup.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've convinced myself that's a secondary concern. We did manage to elect a black human who was articulate, bright, and clean, but who also had a penis. I think that's the common trait.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True, the penis carries more weight than the skin color, but when you combine no penis and more melanin, it's a bigger handicap than just the sum of its parts.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

True, the penis carries more weight than the skin color

I've heard that once you go Black, you never go back, so maybe there is a correlation between penis weight and skin color after all....

but when you combine no penis and more melanin, it's a bigger handicap than just the sum of its parts.

Ah, but remember that Trump also won against the one with no penis, less melanin, and a lot of buttery males. I think that is conclusive, scientific proof that most voters see a penis as a necessary quality in a President.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Ah, but remember that Trump also won against the one with no penis, less melanin

Yes, and he would have won by more if she had more melanin.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

This talking point is just an excuse to shut out AOC.

[–] FoxyFerengi@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know someone who is the target demographic for Trump (white, evangelical, 50+ yo man), and refused to vote for him. However, he "couldn't bring" himself to vote for Kamala.

It's so stupid

[–] don@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remind me again why do non-Americans believed the Americans are one single person?

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

It takes less mental effort for them.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago

He’s clearly good for the economy, you just don’t get it. Like adults and applejacks