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In a post on X, Newsom addressed the U.S.'s global trading partners, writing "California is here and ready to talk."

It comes after a Fox News report revealed that Newsom is directing his state to pursue "strategic" relationships with countries announcing retaliatory tariffs against the U.S., urging them to exclude California-made products from those taxes.

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[–] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I think we're seeing the fundamental effects of what happens when you have such a polarizing president destroy the fabric of what a united country was to have been. At least the EU does not have this problem as much because there's clusters of other countries with their own government. The United States would systematically break if one or more states secedes. But then again, no lone state could function as their own country. Unless you're California or Texas.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 17 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Texas couldn't function as it's own country lol.

They had a cold snap and it damn near destroyed their electric grid. None of the red states could stand on their own. They don't have the funds to keep infrastructure running and have to siphon them off from the blue states.

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Part of the reason Texas hasn't seceded is because they know they couldn't pull it off on their own. Oklahoma, New Mexico, Arizona, and Louisiana know if any of them decided to throw their lot in with Texas, they'd all end up being Texas's vassal states.

[–] themoken@startrek.website 8 points 17 hours ago

Last I checked, Texas was literally the only red state that actually paid more into the federal government than it took out. The cold snap was just the usual idiocy, but it's not like it couldn't be handled, the state just stopped caring about weather proofing infrastructure.

And with the amount of natural resources and basically year round agriculture that happens in Texas, I have no doubt it could be self sufficient to some definition. I almost wish they would secede and tank the current electoral landscape. As long as I can move out first.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

North Korea functions as a country. Its citizens aren't very happy or healthy, but it functions.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 hours ago

North Korea is a border fort bot a real country

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 3 points 16 hours ago

The people of north korea also are not armed to the teeth

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 1 points 17 hours ago

I mean, it could be a shitty disfunctional country with a very poor QoL, but still an independent country.

[–] 1SimpleTailor@startrek.website 6 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Small states will likely form coalitions with neighbouring states with whom they share culture and values. Texas, California, Florida, and New York might be independent, with nearby coilitions of states falling into their spheres of influence, or they may be the dominant power in a coalition of states.

It would be interesting to see what becomes of the states in the Midwest and the Great Basin. None of them have the economic power to stand on their own, and they will be reliant on having good relations with States that have ports.

Border disputes and tensions will be widespread, and the state-lines we know today will likely be completely redrawn. It's likely too that many States will be facing their own internal succession movements from regions on the other end of the culture wars. Not to mention foreign powers pursuing their interests in the remains of the United States. The only certainty in this hypothetical future is that is will be a big, bloody, mess.