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Only semi-related but: The only people I've heard say e-bikes aren't real bikes are people who don't own bikes of either kind.
My primary mode of transportation is a bike and IMO not all e-bikes are real bikes.
Pedal-assist sure but if there is a throttle (and pedaling is optional) then I consider it a moped.
Not that I’m opposed to mopeds…
That's true. We don't have throttle-controlled bikes here because they are legally considered mofas, but mofas with pedals basically don't exist here so there's no overlap.
What’s a mofa ?
In Denmark, a mofa is a 25 kmh limited moped-style vehicle and a license can be acquired extremely easily and at a younger age than other licenses. It is treated almost like a bicycle in traffic in that it shares most laws and goes on the bicycle paths. A moped is 45 kmh limited and requires a far more expensive license. They are explicitly not allowed on bicycle paths and follow rules more akin to a motorcycle.
Historically, mofas used to not require a license and were smaller with pedals connected to the rear axle. Now mofas have no pedals and are just mopeds with a much lower speed limit.
Basically a moped but slightly different such that I wasn't able to find a 1:1 translation. It's a German abbreviation for motor bicycle and they are limited to 25 km/h.
mofa deez n-
Most of them that say that to me are superhuman athletes.
There's no ebike with a hundred mile range, and these guys are doing 24 hour races and cross country tours. So after a short while it just becomes a lead weight in the frame.
There are quite a few ebikes with 100+ mile range, you only need maybe 1500-2000Wh to do 100 miles.
Could get longer ranges like that with a battery pack that can be disconnected and swapped, or connect multiple on the bike and switch the cable over when one is low.
Actually seen an electric motorcycle built like that, it can carry 2 batteries if you want a second one but it uses most of your internal storage space.
Nope. I own four real bicycles. Electric motorcycles are not real bicycles.
I hope you'll make it through whatever you're going through! ❤️
Park your motorcycle inside
I don't own any motor vehicles :)
A motor is a device that converts electrical energy to mechanical energy. Do you own an ebike with an electric motor in it?
I chose my wording very carefully to avoid confusing you and yet you manage.
No, I don't own any vehicles propelled by motor.
No one was talking about electric motorcycles so that checks out.
Ebikes are electric motorcycles.
[citation needed]
Single track vehicles that use motors or engines to move are motorcycles.
That is not a citation
https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle
Nothing here backs up your statement.
Porkchop sandwiches?