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So I only just got into linux this year. I gave some X11 distro's a go, but the screen tearing was awwwwfulll. So I've been running Wayalnd/Plasma for months now.
What exactly am I missing out on? Seems lots of users here still favor X11 over wayland but as I've never had any problems. It's still unclear to me why people are still sticking with X11.
If you're fine with Wayland, go with Wayland. There are lots of reasons still that people might prefer X11 but the list has been getting shorter.
I'm new to Linux too and testing both X11 and Wayland at home. so far I like Wayland in theory (it's the future!) but prefer X11 in practice (no weird graphical issues).
For what it's worth, I regularly switch depending on what I'm doing (AwesomeWM for X11 and Hyprland for Wayland)
I also switched to use different Wayland compositors many years ago for my main systems, but there are also still reasons to use X11. These are mine:
ssh -Y
) and just start a GUI app, and the window appears on your screen.There might be some Wayland compositors that worked around that, but on X11 this was standard. But generally X11 provides these features for all WMs, and in Wayland they have to be implemented individually.
And some just are not supposed to work, for security reasons.
But all of this depends on your use-case. I sometimes even (can or have to) go without a Wayland compositor or X11 and render GUI directly via KMS/DRM.
Multi-cursor support/multi focus
If I want two mice and monitors hooked up so me and another person can use the same computer independently itβs x11
Iβve seen some steps towards this on Wayland but it was in infancy last I checked
I think you can start two Wayland compositors, and change the compositor configuration to use different mice and outputs, but I never tried this.
Thanks for the tip
I'd wager that is true. I know, for sure, you can start one compositor inside another compositor. I do this all the time for gaming with
gamescope
.Isn't there
xdotool
for this?Yes, that is for X11. Now find one that works on all Wayland compositors, that doesn't require root permissions.
I guess wtype is waylands replacement for xdotool? https://github.com/atx/wtype
Pretty good, however
wtype
is only sending keystrokes globally, with xdotool you can also move the mouse, send key events to specific windows and more.Wayland is the new protocol and will be the one that everything uses in the long run
If Wayland works for you, then that's great, don't use X11
The main reason you'd want to use X11 these days is for compatibility. But that's getting less and less of a concern as time goes on
Xorg literally has a option to disable tearing:
Option "TearFree" "true
. If that doesn't work and your compositor neither, fix your video drivers. Lookup Hardware Video Acceleration and similiar on Arch wiki.That doesn't answer that question though
Why not just use Wayland?
Because the DE / tool i'm used to isn't wayland ready yet.
If you have no issues with Wayland, keep using it. You aren't missing anything.
Linux is a vast space, and some people have use cases that aren't covered by Wayland, yet.
So they still use X.
They use it cause their desktop does not support wayland yet or their Nvidia card causes issue with it, potentially since they are using an older driver.
I like XFCE4 but there is no compositor for it yet.
It is in the works though. I'll have to try it out when it lands
Nothing, unless you really want to use a DE that's still lacking behind in its adoption. There are a few tools that still only offer early support for it (like RustDesk), but otherwise Wayland is a way better choice these days. However if you got an Nvidia GPU and need to use the proprietary driver you might be forced to still use X11. Their pile of garbage still routinely bugs on Wayland, and given their work on NVK I doubt that thing will ever get fully fixed.