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The conservatives where I live shit blood absolutely any time any changes are made to roads to make them even slightly more pedestrian and bus/bike friendly. Preventing accidents/deaths and generally having a more usable, inviting environment for anyone that isn’t a car is unacceptable if it adds even a second to their commute. Go live on the fucking highway if you like it so much.
It's funny because adding more non-car options tends to make using a car more pleasant. But conservatives aren't known for being smart, correct, or good at long term thinking.
Every car commerical shows the fantasy of being the only car on the road.
It's so ludicrous. and consistent that when you know to look for it, it's actually hilarious.
People do not like traffic. They already hate most cars, cause they're only driving one.
Perfect! 👌
Oh definitely. The fewer cars there are on the road the nicer it is for me to drive. Make public transport better for everyone, reduce traffic!
To be fair, I do not drive a lot in any particularly dense cities. Mostly countryside and for my main route, I use a shortcut that takes me off the boring highway, onto a curvy road that surprisingly few people use. I'm living the car commercials! Also I mean public transport for this particular route is nonexistent (one bus a day each way and they're hella uncomfortable). If public transport was better for my use cases and if I wasn't constantly lugging around a bunch of stuff, I'd sell my car and get a motorcycle to use on the weekends in the summer.
Yeah. My city changed a one way street that runs 30 blocks headed away from downtown from a two lane multiple stop sign traffic hazard to a single lane with plenty of parking, a bike lane, turn lanes for busy intersections, and highly visible intersections with proper pedestrian connections. Traffic would get backed up before, but now it goes pretty much straight through at the same time of day with barely any sloowing down. Sure, all the cars are in the same lane, but prevoiusly they were just spread out between two lanes and slowing down way more often to merge and turn more slowly.
Haven't heard of any new plans to do the same with comparable streets despite being a roaring success. People look at a single lane and don't understand it can be faster for everyone than two when done right.
That's funny, Lead and Coal avenues in Albuquerque, NM had the same thing done to them, being made into one ways after being clogged two ways. It's wild how much of civil engineering has to do with rate flow.
This was a two lane one way street that was reduced to one lane plus parking and turn lanes.
Not where these people live. Most conservatives don't live in cities.
80% of the population lives in urban areas, and about half the population is conservative. Even if we assumed that every rural person was conservative (which isn't true), that still leaves more conservatives living urban than rural.
Cite your 80%.
Since we both know you won't be able to so
https://www.statista.com/statistics/267838/global-urban-and-rural-population/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Global+urban+and+rural+population+1990-2022&text=Today%2C+4.5+billion+people+live%2Chas+seen+in+recent+decades.
https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/urban-rural-populations.html
Well that's not true. Rural areas are typically majority conservative, but mid-size cities and suburbs are typically closely split conservative vs. not.
Suburbs aren't cities.
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and-rural-residents-views-on-key-social-and-political-issues/
Why do you try and claim them as such.
Yeah this. It's kinda wacky how serious they are about it.
They have been brainwashed by car and oil companies.
That doesn't excuse their ignorance, but it does highlight that the public information component will be very expensive to fix.
It's not that. My theory is that its a brain chemistry thing.
Many drivers don't do any form of exercise at all, and don't do anything exillerating ever. The only time they experience any kind of movement faster than a shuffle is driving. It's the most exciting and engaging thing they will do all year.
With this in mind, there's kind of an imperative to zoom around as fast as possible without encountering adverse stimuli like a fine.