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Thing is, this isn't a "gotcha" to them. Their default assumption is "American = more qualified than anyone else" because they're goddamn ignorant racists.
No one who is not American will ever be qualified in their eyes.
And by American they mean whatever the fuck they want it to mean
White. They want it to mean white.
harvard did get sued over for denying asians, because they felt that "whiteness" needs to come back to school.
Sometimes they want specific whites too, or they aren't white, and have other racist desires.
Sometimes, quite frequently, it includes themselves and they are blissfully unaware of it until it bites them.
American nativism and the evolving definition of "white" in America.
God knows if they needed a medical procedure and the most qualified doctor was in France or China or anywhere, they would demand that they should be treated.
I mean to be fair, don't Universities usually prioritise foreign students because they pay through the nose?
they dont prioritise, they wont get advanced dates to pick classes, it all goes to undergrads, and vets. they JUST PAY TON more, and universities do recruit from other countries to come here.
Foreign students pay out of state tuition, out of state fees, they have to have student insurance.
They have to provide proof of financial ability for the sum of THEIR ENTIRE PROGRAM be it 2 or 4 or 6 years etc. (As in, you don't need to show bank statements showing that you have enough money for the semester, or the year, no, the ENTIRE program)
They can't apply for financial aide.
They CAN sign up for a payment plan but the end sum is the same.
Most aren't allowed to work because the program must require work such as labs etc. un order to get permission, and then off campus work is strictly illegal.
And THEN all of that, every step of the process is dependent on office yahoos who may or may not be diligent enough to get your papers processed in time for deadlines.
I'm dealing with a lot of this for getting into Swedish university. I had to provide proof of finances which is about $1100usd/no for 2.5 years. I'm basically full throttle on applying and I may not hear back before school starts. I have some leeway but I'm lining everything up as if I'm going to get there on time so we'll see
Harvard is private, there aren't out of state fees. They do pay significantly more than American students, which is why universities are fine with ignoring the rampant cheating from foreign students.
As if the American students aren't cheating equally as much
not true, because foreigners pay alot more in tuition than domestic students, thats why they are willing to ignore cheating, because of how lucrative a single foreigner brings in.
Not nearly to the same degree, and most colleges have no problem kicking out domestic cheaters.
I don't think that's the assumption. This sounds like someone planted in their head that there's a shortage of everything and Americans can't get things because foreigners do. The thing about studying abroad is, that Americans do it in other countries too. It's an international exchange. If Harvard stopped taking foreign students, they would indeed study in other countries and less Americans could study in those countries as a result, keeping the total number the same.
I grew up in red state poverty, moved to the west coast, and people up here genuinely do not understand what it's like to live somewhere that sees travel as a bougie thing. I talk about how my parents couldn't afford to send me with my class on the senior trip to europe, the first question that gets asked is why I couldn't get a job and save up, not understanding I was childcare and housekeeping for my family while the adults worked. It's not just coming up with the travel costs, it's also coming up with the money to hire out replacements for the services I provided for free.
I'm privileged I could test high enough to get into a school that had a senior trip to europe, the public school barely got normal field trips. It's not hard to understand why the person in OP would assume exchange students have access to a higher quality of life than them, they can clearly already afford to travel.