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[–] SeppFraudiola@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (6 children)

And that's why kids, xG is the shittest, most useless metric ever created.

[–] allthejokesareblue@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

... except when it makes us look good

[–] FurrySire@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I like how ignorant redditors get angry over data.

[–] Stubborn_Shove@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I guess, if what you think it's telling you is which teams should be in first, second, etc.

If you understand that it's telling you how good a team is at creating quality chances, then it's not useless. Then, combine it with actual goals scored and it tells you how good a team's finishing is. This image shows, among other things, that Chelsea have been very poor at converting quality chances, which helps explain their place in the table.

[–] MedievalRack@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I disagree with you here, and but I can agree that this XGD statistic is awful.

I imagine it's constructed from XG and XGA (which will have different distributions), and not presenting it with these figures really makes it's value very limited indeed.

[–] Hech15@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Depends whether it puts a positive picture of your club or not... Just take a stat for what it is no stat is entirely useless it just shows what it wants to show you don't need to deep it

[–] Lord_Wenry_Hotton@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So you believe every organisation that has actual skin in the game (clubs, bookmakers, football consultants like StatsBomb) uses models based on the shittiest, most useless metric ever created?

[–] SeppFraudiola@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't believe any of these stakeholders are using xG to determine their next course of action. Absolutely naive to think that.

[–] LukeHanson1991@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It is the best predictor how a team will perform over the whole season. Better than actual goals scored. You can bet every single one of those stakeholders uses it.