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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 215 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wonder if this is Musks "you wouldnt have won the election without me" quote.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 150 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump said months before the election that he's got it covered and he isn't worried about it. Why would that be? He told us what he was doing at the time, his people were rigging it.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 132 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I also strongly believe in their use of projecting as a preemptive defensive strategy.

They say "you cheated you cheated you cheated!" so we reply "you're nuts there's no evidence, it's all a conspiracy theory" so then they can cheat later on and turn it around on you when you go to investigate. "Oh now it's true because you lost? Yeah yeah yeah..."

They're always playing psychological warfare with the population... :(

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They’re always playing psychological warfare with the population… :(

Why can't we do psychological warfare on them? I thought they were so much dumber than us.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 2 days ago

They already believe it's happening to them which is why they refuse to listen to any source of information that isn't from their preferred brand.

There are plenty of intelligent MAGA that just have an innate bias that they want to have confimed so they allow themselves to be convinced by mis/disinformation. To admit you were wrong, or to accept that you misunderstood actually creates a "pain" type response that people are very adverse to, there are also the types that have so entrenched themselves in their political beliefs that it becomes their identity. This form of physiological warfare I mentioned is just one way of allowing these people to maintain their identity and to give them a "valid" defense against inconvenient information.

Over time a person can be chipped away at, but if you always give them an answer then they never have to suffer the thought that they were ever wrong about anything so they can remain on "your side."

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And even:

Yes, Trump said Musk knows vote-counting computers 'better than anybody'

He knows those computers better than anybody. All those computers. Those vote-counting computers. And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide.

— trump, on stage at a victory rally in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 19, 2025

The idiot can’t keep his mouth shut and basically blabbed exactly what they were doing, yet nobody really listened.

It will never cease to astound me.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

A strongmen is elected for seeming strong. Of course he will say beforehand that he is certain that he will win. Saying anything else would harm is brand and make less people vote for him. Trump claiming to be successful at anything and everything also isn't something new for him. He did that his entire (adult) life.

This is evidence for Trump being a narcissist and liar, but with the amount of lies, delusional and nonsensical claims he makes, this can be hardly taken as evidence for election fraud.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It definitively is, he similar to trump dies not have a filter. He just counts on things being ambiguous enough that won't affect him.

[–] M137@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

You might wanna call a hospital, pretty sure you were in the middle of a stroke when writing that.

[–] korendian@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Hijacking the top comment to mention (as posted in more detail below) that this actually has a very logical explanation. In short, Biden also got 0 votes in some precincts, which was a total flip from 2016 where Clinton won by large margins. The difference? The community is 100% Hasidic, and community leaders met with Clinton during her Senate race while Bill was president. During this time, there were community members being indicted for a fraudulent Hasidic school. The community voted for Clinton for Senate, and shortly after Bill commuted the sentences of these community members. I.e., very possibly a quid pro quo. So that community in particular supports Clinton for this very specific reason, when Trump was still a relatively unknown quantity, and then flips to support Trump for his very aggressive support of Israel during his first term. I despise Trump, and would love him locked up, but these are cherry picked numbers that prove nothing.