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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is just one more reason why there needs to be an organization participating in protest spaces specifically to provide armed security, same as Black Panthers provided security for civil rights protests.

People won't be so willing to drive into a crowd of protesters if the bloc has an armed perimeter.

[–] VirtigoMommy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Problem is they will disappear, jail, or kill any genuine organizers and infiltrate / sabotage any organization that actually gets to a place of effectively mobilizing a strategy like this.

Don’t get me wrong, I think something like this would help level the playing field and benefit the protesters tremendously but the FBI and DOJ won’t let it happen. Look at the people that tried organizing the Ferguson protests after the death of Eric garner, Freddy grey, Tamir rice, back in 2012-2015 they’re all dead or in jail.

People need to protect and organize themselves. Thats what the black panthers did and that’s precisely why they were so effective. They built up from their preexisting communities.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Problem is they will disappear, jail, or kill any genuine organizers

Problem is they are already doing this regardless of if your an organizer or not. If the regime decides you're a target, then you're fucked. So might as well start organizing to defend against those who actively wish to do you and yours harm.

and infiltrate / sabotage any organization that actually gets to a place of effectively mobilizing a strategy like this

This is why organizations need to practice good OpSec in order to prevent infiltration.

People need to protect and organize themselves. Thats what the black panthers did and that’s precisely why they were so effective. They built up from their preexisting communities.

Yea, and part of what the Black Panthers did in their organizing was to provide armed security for protests, among a plethora of other mutual aid programs.

Those problems have existed for every single revolutionary effort to exist across history. That didn't stop them and it shouldn't stop us either.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or an organization keeping our streets free of killibg machines

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Difference of scale.