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A man named Vance Boelter allegedly shot and killed Melissa Hortman, a Democratic Minnesota state representative, and her husband Mark Hortman at their home at some point early Saturday morning while, according to law enforcement, impersonating a police officer. He also allegedly shot state senator John Hoffman and his wife Yvette Hoffman at their home. They are alive, but remain in critical condition.

Law enforcement has said they found a manifesto and hit list in the alleged suspect’s car, which included politicians, abortion providers, and pro-abortion rights advocates. There were also allegedly fliers in his car for the “No Kings” protest against President Donald Trump, which took place in cities across the US on Saturday.

The 57-year-old, who has been identified as the suspected shooter according to numerous reports, runs an armed security service with his wife, and has been affiliated with at least one evangelical organization, a ministry he has also run with his wife, according to a tax filing reviewed by WIRED. (His wife could not be immediately reached for comment.) According to public records and archived websites reviewed by WIRED, the suspect served for a time as the president of Revoformation Ministries. A version of the ministry’s website captured in 2011 carries a biography in which he is said to have been ordained in 1993.

Read more: https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/

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[–] peteyestee@feddit.org 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (3 children)

Every time I see these things happen it makes me feel in my gut that it's someone forced to do them.

The person that commits them may have aligned with some more wild things, but I feel like these people get targeted and manipulated until they do stuff like this.

Like Q anon... These people that subscribe to that don't realize they are being played out by the deep state they claim to hate.

It feels like there's a psychological war going on and this is exactly how the war is played out, targeting people the can utilize and manifesting events like this so that it looks like a lone wolf.

Q anon, maga, deep state, and gangstalkers.... It all aligns. And it's all intertwined in all aspects of America's foundation.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 21 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

there's a psychological war going on and this is exactly how the war is played out

This is literally the tag line for InfoWars, except their followers don't realize Alex Jones is openly admitting that he's manipulating them with this statement in a fight against some make believe boogeyman.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org -1 points 14 hours ago

Right, that's why I say they don't realize they are the pawns of the deep state.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are definitely more people responsible for this than the one person who pulled a trigger, but he certainly is responsible for that. Being manipulated is not the same as being forced to do something.

[–] peteyestee@feddit.org -2 points 14 hours ago

I think it's people getting forced to though too. Crime isn't just something for poor street people. It's business, it's politics. The older i get I really it's kind of all bullshit. There is no law and order... There's the game and game players, and then their the people that live under the veil of rules and laws made by the people playing the game. It's scales up from the way gangs and Mafia work all the way up to the government and military.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago

You get someone desperate, you convince them that they and their opinions matter, you reinforce this thought process and suggest doing something that matters for the "greater good". Welcome to domestic terrorism 101.