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[–] bagholder_69@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Goretzka has been a passenger this second half just like Groß in the first. Really need kimmich back to help Gundogan

[–] The-Berzerker@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He’s been even more invisible than Groß

[–] Fearless_Ad4244@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A Kimmich Gundogan double pivot is really bad, neither of them can defend good and both like to play more in the attack you risk making your team really bad defensively and with Germany's defense being this bad, I don't think that it would be a wise decision to play them both.

[–] flyingpanda5693@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with that statement, even though you’re not wrong, is that Kimmich absolutely can defend. The guy was literally a second coming of Phillip Lahm for 2-3 years before the switch to CM, easily a top 3 RB in the world. Why he can’t, or won’t, defend as a 6 in the midfield is beyond me.

[–] Llamaisbaebae@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was class in the offense as a rb, in the defense he has nothing, and i mean nothing against the likes of Lahm who was a defending god. I am a Kiimmich fan btw.

[–] Fearless_Ad4244@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Yep, he was decent enough not to make big mistakes in defence but not someone spectacular.

[–] Fearless_Ad4244@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

He is not a really good defender but he is decent enough to not make big mistakes. He is a second coming of Lahm in terms of attacking plays in right back not as a defender. He is a little bit slow to play in that position because in modern days you have to be fast when you play as a fullback because the tendency today is also to help the team in attack so you have to be fast enough to run the whole pitch from your goal to the opposition's goal and to be able to quickly turn in defence in case you are needed. And he plays as a deep lying playmaker and not as a CM but as a DM with not having defensive duties as a typical destroyer DM has but of orchestrating the play.