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[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 119 points 20 hours ago (5 children)

So if it’s city owned it’s bad because any profits would go back to the city. But if it private owned it’s good because the profits go to a few rich people? I must be missing something

[–] kingofthezyx@lemmy.zip 29 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

In fact you could do one better - it doesn't need to make a profit, just break even, so you could either have lower prices, helping the community save money, or higher wages, helping the community spend money. But since it helps most people instead of a few people, it's bad according to capitalism.

[–] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

That'll cause competition with the private owned stores and force them to push down prices / raise wages until their profit margins are gone, putting them out of business.

The only entity that will buy the defunct stores will be the state , or maybe some actual non-profits , and now the state owns all the grocery stores and communism will be achieved. Then we get bread lines, is that what you want? /s.

[–] Bongles@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

Even if people believe that (and I know they do 🙄) that then gives you a niche for a private business to fill. City store always busy? This private store is more expensive but you don't have to wait in line as long. People will pay that difference to save time, especially in NYC.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

I am fond of bread

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 72 points 20 hours ago

I think that the problem is you’re looking at this from a reasonable perspective.

[–] EldenLord@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes but if it‘s city owned, the profits won‘t go towards exploitation of (mostly) non-white laborers and dismantling the social system. Just think of how many humanitarian aid programs could be defunded and how much the environment could be stripped of its resources if we let the private sector maximize their profits!

/s

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

If you're inclined to be charitable, I believe the capitalist-brained reasoning goes something like:

These grocery stores will inevitably run at a loss and/or need to be subsidised - costing the taxpayers money - because the state couldn't possibly run them as efficiently as a private enterprise competing in the free market.

(Not saying I agree.)

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

The reasoning is actually that a food desert means greater revenues from a larger market circle for the desert wanderers to travel so they can eat. Company gets most of the profit without offering convenient service from the captives.

There is zero reason to run grocery stores at a loss. Competition that doesn't extort as strongly as other cartel members does screw over the cartel.

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago

Being government-run, the store will obviously have:

  • a poor selection of products leaving you with no choice
  • ugly packaging meaning only the poors will go there
  • long waiting lists for entry
  • yearly, quarterly and monthly subscriptions, all required and renewed seperately, taking hours in a queue and three trips to the social services hq each to renew
  • quotas on all items, groups of items and time limited - whenever one is passed the rest don't matter
  • no added value like delivery or good customer service
  • no market research or innovation
  • no incentive to do better or improve service
  • an active loss of money due to bueraucratic ineficiencies

(Likewise, also spined it (almost) as much as possible.)

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 14 points 20 hours ago

"Won't somebody think off the job creators?" they'll unironically tell you after laying off thousands of people.